Oct 7, 2026 · 1 hr 15 min · 10 segments
Welcome to episode two of my new podcast series — **Object/ive Permanence** — where in one take, no edits, I chat with someone, the conversation is captured, and you can watch and/or listen to it. The…
Chris BowdenGuest
Simon SweetmanHost
And I go back and I reread the lyrics, and I read them and I interpret them differently because I'm different.

You know, the, the 17-year-old me looked at those lyrics and read them one way.

You know, the 55-year-old me now looks at them and reads them a very different way.

And is the split, if you were to characterize it, is it, like, you know, you saw or felt the anger more when you were younger and it's now it's more the wisdom and contemplation if, you know, if anything like, 'cause that's what you're bringing to it.

And I go back and I reread the lyrics, and I read them and I interpret them differently because I'm different.

You know, the, the 17-year-old me looked at those lyrics and read them one way.

You know, the 55-year-old me now looks at them and reads them a very different way.

And is the split, if you were to characterize it, is it, like, you know, you saw or felt the anger more when you were younger and it's now it's more the wisdom and contemplation if, you know, if anything like, 'cause that's what you're bringing to it.
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