Chuck D

And the first time I heard that, I thought about the way that rap music has been characterized as Black America's CNN.

America's News by Chuck D, the leader of Public Enemy.

I want y'all to think about that.

The freedom singers as a kind of singing newspaper and the freedom songs as a kind of singing newspaper.

You've got Marilyn Manson on here.

You've got all these different Chuck D. I mean, Duff McKagan, who was just on my show the other day.

I mean, all these people that you different you work with and collaborate.

Where does that come from, Billy? Because.

And I love fuel.

Um, so, so, uh, you work with people like that.

You worked with, um, uh, On No Suspects, you've got Chuck D on there.

You've got Josh Fries.

Future Sound of London are on there as well.

Also Chuck D, Chemical Brothers and James.

So, yeah, just Radiohead, Mass Effect, Jesus Emerita, Nine Inch Nails, Reverb, Sonic Youth, you know, Slow Dive, just so damn good.

But yeah, I need to re-watch this film.

Don't be dumb.

With a smartphone is what Chuck D said.

You got this piece of equipment and you can't generate no money.

Side note, not to change the subject.

And this is the first... a hip-hop song in the genre to get through to the top 40 in Billboard charts.

And we have some famous people like Chuck D of Public Enemy later saying, it showed people that rap music could be on the radio.

It was the flag bearer.

LL Cool J saying, that song made me want to rap.

It's a good day, very good day today.

In the words of Public Enemy's Chuck D, bring the noise.

Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, hope you've all had a good week in the circumstances.

I say that in jest because, you know, the surrounding topic is one of, you know... uh, a whole, um, sect of people, uh, getting killed mercilessly, um, and like Macklemore said, you know, he's not a victim, Ed Sheeran is not a victim, Pink is not a victim, um, but yeah, I don't know, I just feel that you know, I've never liked Ed Sheeran's music in general, um, I just, I just found it a bit samey, um, always wondering what the, what the USP was here, um, and yeah, I gave, I gave this album to try and listen to a couple, uh, I just, I just couldn't really get into it, I couldn't really get it, didn't really understand it, um, I've always seen him as like a, you know, kind of Taylor Swift if, you know, if she was from Ipswich and a dude, but, yeah, yeah, it's there, it's, it's, the parallels are there, um, and yeah, I, I think the, I think the, um, There's two, and I didn't actually put this down in a week where I probably should have, but obviously there's also the news about the past week about AI CEOs basically saying we need to slow it down now.

That's right.

I think when creatives get together, they know, you know, what they have to do, and it's a lot of public perception that might d- do the separating.

You know what I mean?

So is the genesis of you guys working with Deck, um, Speaking Real Words?

Yep.

So that was '06?

Geez, crazy.

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