Tim Pool vs Progressives | Surrounded Follow-Up

[clapping] So in that clip, you, uh, you said you don't see Republicans accepting the progressive worldview and vice versa.

So what specific trends make you think that divide is becoming irreconcilable rather than just another cycle of, you know, political polarization?

Well, uh, if we go back to 2021, the issue of immigration is particularly pronounced even today, I think.

Um, I'll just preface this by saying we had the ICE, uh, shootings in January.

Two people died, and neither side is going to accept what that was.

If you go back to 2021, we saw a very, uh, heated circumstance where the Texas State Guard was in a physical confrontation with federal authorities under the Biden administration.

The Biden administration had filed a lawsuit to allow them to remove the physical barriers from the southern border to allow people to illegally enter the country.

The, the entry of, uh, non-citizens, uh, outside of a port of entry is actually a violation of, of codified US law.

For the Biden administration to use federal law enforcement to remove the barriers allowing these people to come in would be to facilitate a, a criminal activity.

Whether or not you believe those people deserve asylum after the fact is, is different.

So you have armed Texas State Guard in a standoff with federal authorities in 2021.

Now, I can say, fortunately, since then, we have seen things calm down in that capacity a little bit.

I mean, it's pretty shocking when you're, you're coming off January 6, and then seven or eight months later, you have the Texas, Texas deploying State Guard.

You had multiple states deploying National Guard to other states, specifically to confront federal authorities.

But now we're still dealing with, you know, Trump has largely secured the border, but now you have ICE and CBP going through various cities.

They're arresting people.

We had a viral video just recently where a woman was trying to board a plane, I believe it was in Denver, and she was, she had overstayed her visa, so she was illegally remaining in the country.

CBP or, I believe it was CBP, it might have been ICE, they arrest her, and the narrative that we get from the progressives is that she was here legally and she was being kidnapped.

And the narrative that we get from the conservatives is that she had overstayed her visa, was here illegally, and was being deported.

Well, I'll just say this.

Obviously, I have my biases, but when you look at the facts of the case, the woman, uh, came here, overstayed her visa by about a year, and was being arrested and deported for overstaying her visa.

If you don't like the laws of this country, then Congress needs to change those things.

But to, to characterize it as a legal individual being kidnapped is, it's hyper-partisan.

And so ultimately, it doesn't matter if, if my, if I'm correct or incorrect as to the assessment of what happened.

What matters, what matters is you have two factions, as it's described by, uh, Stephen Marsh and, uh, various other academics and journalists.

[clapping] So in that clip, you, uh, you said you don't see Republicans accepting the progressive worldview and vice versa.

So what specific trends make you think that divide is becoming irreconcilable rather than just another cycle of, you know, political polarization?

Well, uh, if we go back to 2021, the issue of immigration is particularly pronounced even today, I think.

Um, I'll just preface this by saying we had the ICE, uh, shootings in January.

Two people died, and neither side is going to accept what that was.

If you go back to 2021, we saw a very, uh, heated circumstance where the Texas State Guard was in a physical confrontation with federal authorities under the Biden administration.

The Biden administration had filed a lawsuit to allow them to remove the physical barriers from the southern border to allow people to illegally enter the country.

The, the entry of, uh, non-citizens, uh, outside of a port of entry is actually a violation of, of codified US law.

For the Biden administration to use federal law enforcement to remove the barriers allowing these people to come in would be to facilitate a, a criminal activity.

Whether or not you believe those people deserve asylum after the fact is, is different.

So you have armed Texas State Guard in a standoff with federal authorities in 2021.

Now, I can say, fortunately, since then, we have seen things calm down in that capacity a little bit.

I mean, it's pretty shocking when you're, you're coming off January 6, and then seven or eight months later, you have the Texas, Texas deploying State Guard.

You had multiple states deploying National Guard to other states, specifically to confront federal authorities.

But now we're still dealing with, you know, Trump has largely secured the border, but now you have ICE and CBP going through various cities.

They're arresting people.

We had a viral video just recently where a woman was trying to board a plane, I believe it was in Denver, and she was, she had overstayed her visa, so she was illegally remaining in the country.

CBP or, I believe it was CBP, it might have been ICE, they arrest her, and the narrative that we get from the progressives is that she was here legally and she was being kidnapped.

And the narrative that we get from the conservatives is that she had overstayed her visa, was here illegally, and was being deported.

Well, I'll just say this.

Obviously, I have my biases, but when you look at the facts of the case, the woman, uh, came here, overstayed her visa by about a year, and was being arrested and deported for overstaying her visa.

If you don't like the laws of this country, then Congress needs to change those things.

But to, to characterize it as a legal individual being kidnapped is, it's hyper-partisan.

And so ultimately, it doesn't matter if, if my, if I'm correct or incorrect as to the assessment of what happened.

What matters, what matters is you have two factions, as it's described by, uh, Stephen Marsh and, uh, various other academics and journalists.