Sep 28, 2026 · 23 min · 13 segments
Utah Senator John Johnson welcomes Kai Schwemmer to the PoliticIt Podcast for a conversation about faith, political expression, and the next generation of conservative leadership. Schwemmer’s…
Kai SchwemmerGuestJohn D. JohnsonHostClosing HostHostWell, you know, it's interesting because these debates, I mean, I'm sure you get called Nazi a lot.
These debates really are civil, but they're also intense, right? And it's interesting, that playoff, right?
Not that it's anything to brag about, but I was the varsity debate captain for Highland High School.
The funny thing is these debates go very different directions depending on the energy of the student.
But in those cases, sometimes it's almost better not to say anything at all because they look kind of so ridiculous that anybody watching can tell who's more collected and who's more reasonable.
Well, it's like Sun Tzu says, you know, don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
Don't interrupt the student if they're, you know, spouting off about something that's, you know, really ridiculous.
Sometimes you don't even need to argue against it because the rebuttal is obvious.
Well, you know, it's interesting because these debates, I mean, I'm sure you get called Nazi a lot.
These debates really are civil, but they're also intense, right? And it's interesting, that playoff, right?
Not that it's anything to brag about, but I was the varsity debate captain for Highland High School.
The funny thing is these debates go very different directions depending on the energy of the student.
But in those cases, sometimes it's almost better not to say anything at all because they look kind of so ridiculous that anybody watching can tell who's more collected and who's more reasonable.
Well, it's like Sun Tzu says, you know, don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
Don't interrupt the student if they're, you know, spouting off about something that's, you know, really ridiculous.
Sometimes you don't even need to argue against it because the rebuttal is obvious.
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