Sep 20, 2026 · 41 min · 12 segments
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Jason CleughGuest
Matthew AblicanHost
Well, in a really basic sense, I would say, well, just because we feel it doesn't make it true.

You know, just because we feel like something is exclusionary, or we feel like it's hatred, or we feel like it's stereotyping, or we feel like it's some kind of ism.

You know, I say this to our church all the time, feelings are real, but they're not always truth.

Because as you process feelings with truth, and you do it well, you will come out with truth.

The challenge is so often we just process our feelings according to our feelings.

Well, in a really basic sense, I would say, well, just because we feel it doesn't make it true.

You know, just because we feel like something is exclusionary, or we feel like it's hatred, or we feel like it's stereotyping, or we feel like it's some kind of ism.

You know, I say this to our church all the time, feelings are real, but they're not always truth.

Because as you process feelings with truth, and you do it well, you will come out with truth.

The challenge is so often we just process our feelings according to our feelings.
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