Aug 3, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 9 segments
In this episode, Sathiya welcomes Landon Sherman, teaching pastor, leadership team member of God Behind Bars, and host of the Gaining Ground podcast. Together, they explore how faith, intentional…
Landon ShermanGuestSathiya SamHostUm, it's funny, uh, I have lots and lots of thoughts here, but one of the things you said just a few minutes ago about the way that the...
Was it, did you say 70% of people will re-offend three years a- after they get out of prison?
Yes, and kids, kids whose parents are incarcerated are six times more likely to be imprisoned themselves.
Well, uh, it's just reminding me, we, we quote this study a lot in, on the podcast, in, in my program and everything else.
There was a, a viral TED Talk probably 15 years ago that popularized it, but they basically...
The, the whole experiment is, you know, you have rats, you put them in a cage one at a time.
And 100% of the rats get addicted to the cocaine-laced water, which is not surprising.
So that's the test group, and the, but the actual experiment is with the second group, it's a rat...
Um, it's funny, uh, I have lots and lots of thoughts here, but one of the things you said just a few minutes ago about the way that the...
Was it, did you say 70% of people will re-offend three years a- after they get out of prison?
Yes, and kids, kids whose parents are incarcerated are six times more likely to be imprisoned themselves.
Well, uh, it's just reminding me, we, we quote this study a lot in, on the podcast, in, in my program and everything else.
There was a, a viral TED Talk probably 15 years ago that popularized it, but they basically...
The, the whole experiment is, you know, you have rats, you put them in a cage one at a time.
And 100% of the rats get addicted to the cocaine-laced water, which is not surprising.
So that's the test group, and the, but the actual experiment is with the second group, it's a rat...
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