Oct 14, 2026 · 48 min · 14 segments
For a lot of people, Udio was the AI music app where they finally got to make the songs they’d been hearing in their heads for years. Then one night last fall, Udio settled its lawsuit with Universal…
Mark Henry PhillipsHostMichaelGuestAustralian Udio UserGuestLondon ProducerGuest
Cherie HuGuestStevenGuestBobGuestAlanGuestZachGuest
David PhelanGuestChrisGuestBut the difference in sound is mostly determined by, by their training data sets.
It's like their special sauce, their alchemy maybe.
For people who actually really knew how to use Udio, it was like no other tool out there.
He zeroed in on another big difference with Udio, how you actually make a song.
Udio just gave you a piece in the middle of the song, just 30 seconds, and you built it out from there, forwards or backwards.
The way Udio was, it was always small snippets, that you would make a little bit and go, "Oh, okay, then I could take the next path."
And it's piecing it together.
It felt like you were actually creating something, like I had a hand in each little bit of it.
So even if you and I started with the exact same prompt, just by picking between those two options over and over, we'd end up with two completely different songs.
And that's, I think, w- was one of the things that people outside the Udio community probably don't relate or can't correlate to.
You're basically, uh, iterating all the time, trying to get to that melody that you want, or that chord progression that really sort of s- smacks what you're trying to do.
They'd spent weeks on a song, making choices snippet by snippet, thinking they'd own whatever they created.
It's like imagine if you'd been writing a book in Microsoft Word, and one day you're told you can't save it to your computer anymore.
But the difference in sound is mostly determined by, by their training data sets.
It's like their special sauce, their alchemy maybe.
For people who actually really knew how to use Udio, it was like no other tool out there.
He zeroed in on another big difference with Udio, how you actually make a song.
Udio just gave you a piece in the middle of the song, just 30 seconds, and you built it out from there, forwards or backwards.
The way Udio was, it was always small snippets, that you would make a little bit and go, "Oh, okay, then I could take the next path."
And it's piecing it together.
It felt like you were actually creating something, like I had a hand in each little bit of it.
So even if you and I started with the exact same prompt, just by picking between those two options over and over, we'd end up with two completely different songs.
And that's, I think, w- was one of the things that people outside the Udio community probably don't relate or can't correlate to.
You're basically, uh, iterating all the time, trying to get to that melody that you want, or that chord progression that really sort of s- smacks what you're trying to do.
They'd spent weeks on a song, making choices snippet by snippet, thinking they'd own whatever they created.
It's like imagine if you'd been writing a book in Microsoft Word, and one day you're told you can't save it to your computer anymore.
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