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Sep 11, 2026
Dru MastersHOST
I don't really know.
Dru MastersHOST
to be honest, what the difference between, say, Suno and Udio is.
Dru MastersHOST
And there will be others.
Dru MastersHOST
There are others, but there will be more.
Dru MastersHOST
It's like Hydra, isn't it? Once we get rid of Suno and Udio, a million others are going to pop up.
Dru MastersHOST
The question is, if you start suing, so the people suing are suing the people that run these companies.
Dru MastersHOST
Once you start getting individuals being sued, it starts to get very frightening for new people coming along.
Dru MastersHOST
It's ambient.
LauraHOST
Right, and Suno is not operating alone here.
LauraHOST
Udio has taken a walled garden approach with Universal, Warner, Merlin, and Cobalt, and Spotify struck its own deal with Universal back in May.
ChrisHOST
So the entire category is converging on licensing at roughly the same moment, which suggests the holdouts are negotiating rather than objecting on principle, whatever the public statements happen to say.
LauraHOST
That is my read.
Jordan WilsonHOST
Depending on when you're listening to, I don't know, maybe we're on Suno V7 by now.
Jordan WilsonHOST
Uh, but right now, at the time of this recording, uh, Suno V5.5. You have Udio, you have ElevenLabs now.
Jordan WilsonHOST
So ElevenLabs, uh, was originally a big text-to-speech player.
Jordan WilsonHOST
Uh, now they're in the AI music space as well.
DeeHOST
You hold the power to negotiate those elements entirely separately.
DanHOST
Okay, identity is one thing, but what about the sheer volume of raw data these machines are just eating? Because right as Suno is fighting this battle over human likeness, another major AI company, Udio, is fighting a massive battle squarely on the grounds of traditional copyright and fair use.
DeeHOST
The Udio case is fascinating.
DanHOST
It really rips the mechanical reality of AI training wide open.
DanHOST
According to the article, Sony Music is suing Udio over thirty thousand one hundred and seventeen allegedly copied recordings.
DeeHOST
Yeah, and the Udio defense is incredibly revealing because it pulls back the curtain on exactly how the tech industry expects the law to adapt to machine learning.
DeeHOST
Udio claims their training process represents what they call quintessential fair use.
DanHOST
Quintessential fair use? That's a bold claim.
Imran ShaikhHOST
You can also replace a single lyric without generating a song all over again.
Imran ShaikhHOST
You might recall that back in 2024, a group of record labels made up of the industry's largest players, including Warner Music, sued Suno and Udio, accusing the companies of copyright infringement at a massive scale.
Imran ShaikhHOST
Last year, Warner dropped its lawsuit against Suno in exchange for a licensing agreement that it said would give its artists full control over how their voices and music are used in AI-generated tracks.
Imran ShaikhHOST
The company said that V6 is the formal start of the company's relationship with labels like Warner and BMG.
Jay GilbertHOST
Hmm.
Jay GilbertHOST
It's the first time the federal government has weighed in on any of the copyright cases now pending against AI companies, which include music industry suits against Anthropic, Suno, and Udio.
Mike EtchartHOST
Yeah, well, here's a few things you need to know.
Mike EtchartHOST
First, the Department of Justice argues training in LLM, that's a large language model, on copyrighted text is a use of a different kind or character and extraordinarily transformative.
Dan RuncieHOST
Not in terms of the dollar amount, but in terms of the precedent.
Dan RuncieHOST
And you may be listening to this and wondering, okay, well, if Suno and Udio and others think that they are going to get fair use, why would they partner with Warner Music? Why would they partner with Universal Music? Having the license to simply train the data or rather the protection to train the data is just one thing.
Dan RuncieHOST
You also want to be able to have the partnership that can allow for the recordings, a publishing relationship, artist participation, name and likeness, again, commercial use.
Dan RuncieHOST
distribution and ultimately industry legitimacy.
Ashley HardgraveHOST
Cook said that the performance would be contingent on approvals from the State Department and Donald Trump.
Weston WilliamsHOST
The American Federation of Musicians Union is suing major record labels such as Universal, Atlantic, and Warner for failure to compensate musicians properly after licensing out their libraries to AI platforms Suno and Udio.
Weston WilliamsHOST
The suit alleges that the labels breached a collective bargaining agreement's new use provision, which states that the label is legally required to notify the AFM and pay compensation to musicians whose work is repurposed or licensed for a new format.
Oliver CamachoHOST
San Francisco Opera Orchestra is threatening to strike on opening night of Simon Bocanegra on September 12th.
StaceyHOST
No, you can still download stuff.
StaceyHOST
Like Udio, they've disabled them entirely.
StaceyHOST
Suno you can download.
StaceyHOST
It's just what happens is on the free tier, you only get seven downloads for life.
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