Suno

And right now it's left to the court of public opinion to fight these things, right? So artists who feel like their work has been ripped off and some of them have had success.

For example, Suno, their music making platform.

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But for like Suno, for example, there are things that I've done on there that I would want to use commercially later on.

And that is like a product that has a lot of hits, right? And sometimes what these platforms do is they update the terms and services without doing like public announcements and all those things, right? And there are channels that I've subscribed to that look into these things.

So walk me through the process.

What do you start with? And at what point do you go into Suno as the program you use the AI?

Yeah.

And there's several out there.

Um, I chose Suno because Tom Shepard is, is really, he's been into it for a year now and he's learned a lot of stuff.

So I knew I could speed, you know, fast track the learning process with the questions to Tom.

And, um, Basically, in the AI world, in the Nashville world, as I said, you write the song, you record it with a guitar and a vocal, what we call a scratch track.

When you get that all...

So you know what? I'm in a bad, not a bad mood, but I need some music.

This is a song that I wrote along with my friends at Chat and Suno.

And I asked at the time, would you make a song? You've heard it before, but I'm going to play it again.

I wanted a song that was Broadway, sounded like Broadway, something that Joel Grey would star in.

I tell you what, I know.

Chad is amazing.

Suno is amazing.

And you know what? Let's be honest.

And you roll the clocks forward and Those companies that were kind of that first wave that cracked a significant use case are the ones that have stood the test of time, AWS, et cetera.

And so what we've thought about was how do we identify those of this technology wave, which is why you see us in Lovable, Agora, Suno, Higgs Field, OpenRouter, and Anthropic, obviously, and on and on.

So it's kind of like, hey, let's make sure this is a unique point in time these winners are likely to compound in an outsized way for a long, long period of time.

And we want to make sure we're in every one of them.

or if

it was on words.

Or look at something like Suno.

Mikey and team there have built their own audio models to make that experience magical.

Normies might recognize the name Elvis Presley.

Over in Billboard, Bill Donahue's reporting that the Elvis estate has loosed its thundering hordes of litigators, or maybe we should say released the hound dogs on Suno and Anthropic.

Yep, another week, another training data lawsuit chipping away at the legal war chests of big AI.

Needless to say, Anthropic will be able to muster a lot more resources to stave off the hound dogs than Suno will, So while Anthropic, with its currently infinite resources, can probably afford to hold Elvis and everybody else at arm's length for a while, Suno is a little more mission-tied to figuring this issue out, and it's a heck of a lot less wealthy than Anthropic.

It's hard to see how they can keep serially getting sued by so many people forever, as even their recent efforts to become more industry-friendly don't seem to have stopped the constant onslaught of legal action.

Something's gotta give.

philosophy now too, right?

Well, think about Suno, the music service that I was talking about the other week where you can go and create songs.

Now, one thing they don't let you do, as far as I know, you can't say, I want a song and I want it to be exactly like Metallica, but I want it to be about KitchenAid appliances.

It could absolutely 100% knock that out of the park and do it.

So on AI generated music, It is unavailable for copyright, which means you cannot get paid publishing, you cannot get paid royalties, unless what the Copyright Office says, unless there is substantial human involvement then the Copyright Office rather helpfully doesn't explain what that means so they're leaving it up to the courts to determine what substantial human involvement means which means there will be cases that are essentially guinea pig cases where the courts will help further define what that means substantial human involvement what does that mean who knows so I have had people call me who are musicians, but not serious musicians, that will tell me, no, I've written this brilliant song.

I got my, I went through Suno or some other AI generating thing, and this song, and I put the ideas in, and then the thing generated the whole song.

It wrote the lyrics, it's got the melody, and I think it can be a hit.

I'm like, okay, what, I don't know what you want me to tell you.

There's somebody else doing this too.

There's a lot of artists who are saying that AI agents, you know, whether it's, you know, I don't know, this Suno, isn't there like some, yeah, there's some music app called Suno that I guess songwriters can come up with ideas and they can say, all right, now take this idea and produce it in the style of Oasis or in the style of Elvis.

And so a lot of these artists are saying, you're using our songs to train up your AI and you're not paying us for it.

And so that's just one of the ethical questions about this whole endeavor.