Undercover cop with a death wish: Todd Maguire Pt.1

There was something in your book that I found interesting, and I, I wanna discuss it because I have so many people on the podcast, and we talk so often about, you know, life-changing, uh, events where, uh, tragedies or, you know, uh, horrendous crimes have occurred and how people, uh, deal with the aftermath.

And, uh, I thought it was interesting that you had, uh, how people responded around you, you know, friends, family, without naming names.

But, uh, a couple of points that you brought up that you want people to acknowledge what you're going through when you're, you're dealing with a situation that you've just described.

But you don't need people coming up to you and saying, and I've pulled out a couple of, uh, comments from your book, "Time heals all wounds.

You'll be stronger for it." And then there was one bloke who said, "I, I know how you feel 'cause my uncle, or great uncle, died of, uh, cancer."

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And you go fairly hard on those comments, that that was not what you needed-

No

... at that, at the time.

No.

Not at all.

Yeah.

Not at all.

Um, I don't blame them.

I don't begrudge them for it-

Yeah

... because I've, prior to that, I would've said the same thing as well.

People don't know what to say, and I think part of what, what I'm doing in this public space is to-

Yeah

... give people a few little tips of what to say.

Sometimes you don't have to say anything.

Yeah.

You just sit in the, in the gutter with them.

them.Well, it's, it's interesting w- 'cause we were having the chat about it the other day when we, we're talking, and, uh, I know a lot of families of victims of homicide have issues with or just say, "It doesn't help us with the way people treat us." And, and sometimes good friends will cross the road to avoid them because they don't wanna say anything 'cause they just don't know what to say.

Yeah.