Jun 28, 2026 · 48 min · 14 segments
**Season 4, episode 12 is here!** michelle ray spent 15 years teaching abroad in Ecuador, Bahrain, and Dubai before coming back to the States, having a kid, and eventually sitting down to write a…
Michelle RayGuest
David McIlroyHost
How do you kind of feel that anyone should maybe start on their journey with tapping into their own story? What's like an initial step someone could take if they want to understand, first of all, I guess, what their kind of core story actually is they're going to kind of always go back to? What's the first step on that process?

No, the first step, I think, is to, you know, really think about why and how you want to use your story, I think, because that I feel like will inform what story you bring forward.

And I've found the ones that are really effective and are the ones that people can relate to.

So I would think about like which story you're trying to bring forth and for what purpose and then go about.

I do this thing called image sprints where I have people just think of like, think of a memory and think of like what comes to mind.

So have, you know, I have people like think of that image and then just quickly write off like descriptions, like sensory descriptions, what they were feeling, seeing, all that kind of stuff.

So oftentimes, if you can capture an image or capture a scrap, a moment of the story, then it kind of grows from there.

Lately, also, I've been thinking about how you can dig deeper by using artifacts from your past.

That's a great way to obviously think about things that happened in the past, but also Emails from that time or documents, any type of documents.

So when I was writing my memoir, I wanted to, like, amp up some of the conflict from the opening of my memoir.

And so I kind of went back to that time, like, what I was doing when I was preparing to leave for the Middle East.

And when I arrived at, you know, in Bahrain, I actually, like, and I had totally forgotten about this.

I'd actually, like, I was stopped at and held at customs because, like, I had all this proper documentation, but I didn't know who my sponsor was.

How do you kind of feel that anyone should maybe start on their journey with tapping into their own story? What's like an initial step someone could take if they want to understand, first of all, I guess, what their kind of core story actually is they're going to kind of always go back to? What's the first step on that process?

No, the first step, I think, is to, you know, really think about why and how you want to use your story, I think, because that I feel like will inform what story you bring forward.

And I've found the ones that are really effective and are the ones that people can relate to.

So I would think about like which story you're trying to bring forth and for what purpose and then go about.

I do this thing called image sprints where I have people just think of like, think of a memory and think of like what comes to mind.

So have, you know, I have people like think of that image and then just quickly write off like descriptions, like sensory descriptions, what they were feeling, seeing, all that kind of stuff.

So oftentimes, if you can capture an image or capture a scrap, a moment of the story, then it kind of grows from there.

Lately, also, I've been thinking about how you can dig deeper by using artifacts from your past.

That's a great way to obviously think about things that happened in the past, but also Emails from that time or documents, any type of documents.

So when I was writing my memoir, I wanted to, like, amp up some of the conflict from the opening of my memoir.

And so I kind of went back to that time, like, what I was doing when I was preparing to leave for the Middle East.

And when I arrived at, you know, in Bahrain, I actually, like, and I had totally forgotten about this.

I'd actually, like, I was stopped at and held at customs because, like, I had all this proper documentation, but I didn't know who my sponsor was.
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