House of Lords Podcast: Lord Speaker's Corner
Oct 2, 2024 · 1 hr · 15 segments
‘This morning, even this morning, I was in my prayer saying to God, "What am I doing here?”’ Justin Welby, the 105th Archbishop of Canterbury, senior bishop in the Church of England and leader of the…
Justin WelbyGuest
John McFallHost
then you move to coventry is the dean and coventry had been bombed in 1943 and was it the priest at the time reverend ather wales who picked up the carpenter's nails after the bombing and then made the cross of nails as a result that's become really symbolic as a result of that this lasted and Am I correct in saying that it symbolizes the issue of reconciliation?
And at the end of the Second World War, the Dean of Coventry at the time sent a team, first of all to Kiel, which had been very heavily bombed, and then to Dresden.
And after the fall of the Wall, the Frankirche was rebuilt, and Coventry contributed the cross at the top of the Frauenkirche, a cross of nails, because that sense of the horror of war, the mutual suffering that Coventry and Dresden endured has embedded that link very, very powerfully.
And with many other cities across Germany, there's about 48 places that have a cross of nails to link them to Coventry.
And the community of the Cross of Nails, which I oversaw when I was working there, now has about 250 centres around the world, a very large number in places that have suffered from war.
And if I'm correct, then he gave you a replica of the staff of Pope St. Gregory.
He gave me the, Gregory the Great had a beautiful ivory carved crozier, the thing that bishops carry, which he'd held in his hand in 597 when he sent Augustine here.
And I got a wooden replica of it, beautifully carved and made for a pastoral staff.
And it was an extraordinary gesture because Francis never does a symbol by accident.
And he recognized the pastoral responsibilities that Archbishops Canterbury had.
then you move to coventry is the dean and coventry had been bombed in 1943 and was it the priest at the time reverend ather wales who picked up the carpenter's nails after the bombing and then made the cross of nails as a result that's become really symbolic as a result of that this lasted and Am I correct in saying that it symbolizes the issue of reconciliation?
And at the end of the Second World War, the Dean of Coventry at the time sent a team, first of all to Kiel, which had been very heavily bombed, and then to Dresden.
And after the fall of the Wall, the Frankirche was rebuilt, and Coventry contributed the cross at the top of the Frauenkirche, a cross of nails, because that sense of the horror of war, the mutual suffering that Coventry and Dresden endured has embedded that link very, very powerfully.
And with many other cities across Germany, there's about 48 places that have a cross of nails to link them to Coventry.
And the community of the Cross of Nails, which I oversaw when I was working there, now has about 250 centres around the world, a very large number in places that have suffered from war.
And if I'm correct, then he gave you a replica of the staff of Pope St. Gregory.
He gave me the, Gregory the Great had a beautiful ivory carved crozier, the thing that bishops carry, which he'd held in his hand in 597 when he sent Augustine here.
And I got a wooden replica of it, beautifully carved and made for a pastoral staff.
And it was an extraordinary gesture because Francis never does a symbol by accident.
And he recognized the pastoral responsibilities that Archbishops Canterbury had.
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