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Eyes on Middle Powers

Eyes on Middle Powers

India and the Art of Saying No: Lessons in Negotiation - Shyam Saran - Eyes on Middle Powers Eps. 12

May 19, 2026 · 34 min · 11 segments

This podcast was recorded on 14 April 2026. This is Eyes on Middle Powers, a podcast where we dive deep into the foreign policy updates of the middle powers, offering their perspectives on key issues…

This podcast was recorded on 14 April 2026. This is Eyes on Middle Powers, a podcast where we dive deep into the foreign policy updates of the middle powers, offering their perspectives on key issues shaping the regional and global affairs. This podcast is brought to you by the Foreign Policy Community of Indonesia's Middle Powers Studies Network

This podcast was recorded on 14 April 2026. This is Eyes on Middle Powers, a podcast where we dive deep into the foreign policy updates of the middle powers, offering their perspectives on key issues…

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Speakers: Shyam SaranGuestJennyHost

Top entities: India×65 Donald Trump×14 United States×39 United Nations×20 Middle power×5

Show signals: SuitabilitySensitiveBiasCenterAudience≈127k followers

Welcoming Ambassador Shyam Saran1:13 – 2:06

J

JennyHost

1:13

Hi, everyone.

J

JennyHost

1:14

Welcome to Eyes on Middle Towers podcast.

J

JennyHost

1:16

Today, we are joined by Ambassador Shyam Saran from India.

J

JennyHost

1:20

He is the former Foreign Secretary of India, former Chairman of National Security Board as well, and most importantly, former Ambassador to our country, Indonesia, in 2001.

J

JennyHost

1:33

Welcome back to Jakarta, Ambassador Shyam.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:35

Thank you.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:35

Very happy to be here.

J

JennyHost

1:37

Yeah, it's been how many years since you were in Jakarta?

Shyam SaranGuest

1:42

Oh, I was in Jakarta as ambassador only for one year.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:45

That was in 2001 to 2002.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:49

But I have been back to Indonesia a couple of times.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:52

But this time it's only 10 years since I've been back.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:56

So it's very nice to be back here in Indonesia, see all the changes that are taking place and meet some old friends.

J

JennyHost

2:06

Great.

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Welcoming Ambassador Shyam Saran1:13 – 2:06

J

JennyHost

1:13

Hi, everyone.

J

JennyHost

1:14

Welcome to Eyes on Middle Towers podcast.

J

JennyHost

1:16

Today, we are joined by Ambassador Shyam Saran from India.

J

JennyHost

1:20

He is the former Foreign Secretary of India, former Chairman of National Security Board as well, and most importantly, former Ambassador to our country, Indonesia, in 2001.

J

JennyHost

1:33

Welcome back to Jakarta, Ambassador Shyam.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:35

Thank you.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:35

Very happy to be here.

J

JennyHost

1:37

Yeah, it's been how many years since you were in Jakarta?

Shyam SaranGuest

1:42

Oh, I was in Jakarta as ambassador only for one year.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:45

That was in 2001 to 2002.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:49

But I have been back to Indonesia a couple of times.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:52

But this time it's only 10 years since I've been back.

Shyam SaranGuest

1:56

So it's very nice to be back here in Indonesia, see all the changes that are taking place and meet some old friends.

J

JennyHost

2:06

Great.

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