Sukarno

Whether that is going to happen, particularly as we know that the United States of America wants to control all the levers of political and diplomatic power and how that is going to, uh, to pan out as we see the emergence of other organizations.

Remember that the UN itself, even as it operated, never stopped the existence of other organizations such as you will remember the Non-Aligned Movement, which for a long time operated in those early days of President Sukarno, Tito, Nkrumah, and Nehru.

And, uh, then you also have the BRICS now.

The BRICS, which brings together Brazil, Russia, China, and South Africa and of course India.

And he said the Indonesia massacres of 1965 would not have happened if Kennedy had lived.

Because Kennedy backed Sukarno.

he would have never backed that overthrow attempt in 1965, all right? And so those massacres in all likelihood would not have happened.

Now, I don't know if you've ever covered these things, but the estimates on how many people were killed in 1965 in Indonesia go from about 500,000 to about 750,000.

She'd meet Queen Elizabeth on two separate occasions.

She met the Nixons, and she also met the Duke of Edinburgh, Sukarno, many other world leaders, and she was feted as a great hero.

She became a member of the Legislative Council here, the Parliament, and she also became the first principal for Singapore's School of the Blind.

But ultimately, she would shun all of that celebrity in favour of returning to the classroom, which was the place that she loved and knew best, and she would educate, really, generations of Singaporeans.

Ask your parents what a porno is.

[laughs] In the 1960s, the CIA- ... produced a pornographic movie featuring then Indonesian President Sukarno to discredit him and lend support for a right-wing insurgency.

Option number one.

Option number two, known as Acoustic Kitty, the CIA spent over $20 million trying to turn house cats into spies.

This system was rather less popular in Indonesia, and the Dutch didn't offer much in exchange.

They couldn't even defend their colony from the Japanese, who occupied it for most of World War II, during which time the Japanese furthered the cause of Indonesian nationalism by placing native Indonesians in more prominent positions of power, including Sukarno, who became Indonesia's first prime minister.

After the war, the Dutch, with British help, tried to hold on to their Indonesian colonies with so-called police actions, which went on for more than four years before Indonesia finally won its independence in 1950.

Over in the French colonies of Indochina, so-called because they were neither Indian nor Chinese, things were even more violent.

so i there's a difference between people who um kind of they end with it's the jews and that if you if it's it's the same thing with my um kind of pushback on the jfk assassination If you think that the entire JFK assassination revolved around Israel developing the nuclear program, which basically was done with our technology and that of France, you do a disservice to all of the things that JFK was doing at the time that he was assassinated.

He was supporting people like Sukarno over in Indonesia, who was leading the block of independent neutral countries, which just made everybody apoplectic.

He was talking about getting rid of the... depletion allowance for the oil industry.

He he had such broad sweeping changes.

It's been a long time since I looked at this.

But two out of them were Nehru and Sukarno.

And maybe

Nasser? I

in, I think, 64 or 65, the year of living dangerously.

And you're reading about Sukarno being knocked off and the train is halfway in and out of the tunnel, halfway in the light and half in the darkness.

And this is when Indonesia first sort of enters into your sort of imagination about what Australia should do.

Now, what I think is worth stressing here is just how much, I guess, fear of Indonesia was sort of running very strongly through the Australian national security establishment, right? Indonesia is a source of expansionism, potentially, and caprice, and uncertainty, a strategic uncertainty for Australia.