Oct 22, 2025 · 51 min · 12 segments
This episode was recorded on 8 May 2025. This is Eyes on Middle Powers, a podcast where we dive deep into the foreign policy updates of the middle powers, offering their perspectives on key issues…
Nabil FahmyGuest
Dino Patti DjalalHostYou were a foreign minister of one of the most consequential countries in the Middle East.
First of all, traditionally, because we live on two seas, we are in two continents,
There's never been a point in history with other different systems when Egypt was in isolation from Doha.
Secondly, Because we're centrists, close to the topic that you bring in to discussion, middle of the road, middle states, we've always tried to communicate to find a common ground.
And that being said, if you're a middle state and you want to play a role, you have to take initiative.
we were instrumental over the years in going to war or to go into peace, trying to solve issues in all of our relationships, be it in Africa, Middle
But also, and I say this proudly, the topic that you're discussing today under your leadership, we're discussing under your leadership, At the very beginning of the UN, when it was being drafted the law, the Constitution being drafted, our Delegate openly said, the world will change
over time, so we need to review the Charter and the Security Council in particular every 25 years.
It's this engagement that has established a credibility for Egypt in diplomacy, even with countries that
very easy calling card, or it's a credible calling card, not easy, but it's a credible calling card for an Egyptian day khutbah, and you also bear responsibility to remain at that standard, not that level.
So consistency is at the heart of Egypt's credibility in international affairs.
You were a foreign minister of one of the most consequential countries in the Middle East.
First of all, traditionally, because we live on two seas, we are in two continents,
There's never been a point in history with other different systems when Egypt was in isolation from Doha.
Secondly, Because we're centrists, close to the topic that you bring in to discussion, middle of the road, middle states, we've always tried to communicate to find a common ground.
And that being said, if you're a middle state and you want to play a role, you have to take initiative.
we were instrumental over the years in going to war or to go into peace, trying to solve issues in all of our relationships, be it in Africa, Middle
But also, and I say this proudly, the topic that you're discussing today under your leadership, we're discussing under your leadership, At the very beginning of the UN, when it was being drafted the law, the Constitution being drafted, our Delegate openly said, the world will change
over time, so we need to review the Charter and the Security Council in particular every 25 years.
It's this engagement that has established a credibility for Egypt in diplomacy, even with countries that
very easy calling card, or it's a credible calling card, not easy, but it's a credible calling card for an Egyptian day khutbah, and you also bear responsibility to remain at that standard, not that level.
So consistency is at the heart of Egypt's credibility in international affairs.
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