Jun 23, 2026 · 53 min · 12 segments
Mike Prysner takes Abby Martin through the explosive Washington Post article finally proving the level of control Gabbard received from cult leader Chris Butler through her entire career.
Mike PrysnerHost
Abby MartinHost
But Mike, you were inspired today, particularly because of this new article that just came out.
Tulsi Gabbard and not just Tulsi Gabbard, but Tulsi Gabbard's cult that underpins every single thing that Tulsi Gabbard does that you've been on the tip of for quite a while.
People were treating her, you know, as like a Russian agent and it was always the wrong critiques.
And you've been just kind of crying from the rooftops about how the fact that she's a member of a cult, an anti-Islam cult for so long, and you've been the source of a I guess, talk about why you wanted to do this podcast today and just give us a preliminary rundown of the article before we dig into it.
Okay, so I did the first podcast about Tulsi Gabbard back on the Eyes Left podcast with Spencer Rapone in 2019 when she was wading into the Democratic primary, and that covered mainly her fake anti-war branding and how it wasn't consistent with things that she had said, but also her upbringing under the tutelage of a virulently anti-Muslim guru who I argued was still very much a part of her life.
And just a year or so ago, when her book was published, her so-called memoir, I did another Eyes Left podcast with Julian Field and Etta Germantum about How it wasn't really a memoir.
And it was that kind of focused on her inexplicable, complete transformation into a MAGA person from this kind of fake progressive or
And I think this article I've seen a lot of people saying this new article from Washington Post says, which is titled Tulsi Gabbard, Her Guru and the Mysterious Messages That Helped Shape Her Political Career by journalist John Swain.
He's the guy that in 2024, he was investigating Science of Identity Foundation, Tulsi Gabbard's call.
And he was in Hawaii and he was going to different cult leaders doors and they published like a picture of him on like the ring camera.
And Gabbard and Trump War Room and all the MAGA media were just like circulating his photo being like this guy is trying to destroy his leftist agitator or whatever.
I've seen a lot of people say this isn't a big deal because we've all known this stuff.
because it focuses on her being puppeted by Chris Butler, the head of Science of Identity Foundation.
But this is big because it includes tens of thousands of pages of documents provided by someone who was, until very recently, a member of the Science of Identity Foundation who did digital strategy for several of Gabbard's congressional campaigns.
But Mike, you were inspired today, particularly because of this new article that just came out.
Tulsi Gabbard and not just Tulsi Gabbard, but Tulsi Gabbard's cult that underpins every single thing that Tulsi Gabbard does that you've been on the tip of for quite a while.
People were treating her, you know, as like a Russian agent and it was always the wrong critiques.
And you've been just kind of crying from the rooftops about how the fact that she's a member of a cult, an anti-Islam cult for so long, and you've been the source of a I guess, talk about why you wanted to do this podcast today and just give us a preliminary rundown of the article before we dig into it.
Okay, so I did the first podcast about Tulsi Gabbard back on the Eyes Left podcast with Spencer Rapone in 2019 when she was wading into the Democratic primary, and that covered mainly her fake anti-war branding and how it wasn't consistent with things that she had said, but also her upbringing under the tutelage of a virulently anti-Muslim guru who I argued was still very much a part of her life.
And just a year or so ago, when her book was published, her so-called memoir, I did another Eyes Left podcast with Julian Field and Etta Germantum about How it wasn't really a memoir.
And it was that kind of focused on her inexplicable, complete transformation into a MAGA person from this kind of fake progressive or
And I think this article I've seen a lot of people saying this new article from Washington Post says, which is titled Tulsi Gabbard, Her Guru and the Mysterious Messages That Helped Shape Her Political Career by journalist John Swain.
He's the guy that in 2024, he was investigating Science of Identity Foundation, Tulsi Gabbard's call.
And he was in Hawaii and he was going to different cult leaders doors and they published like a picture of him on like the ring camera.
And Gabbard and Trump War Room and all the MAGA media were just like circulating his photo being like this guy is trying to destroy his leftist agitator or whatever.
I've seen a lot of people say this isn't a big deal because we've all known this stuff.
because it focuses on her being puppeted by Chris Butler, the head of Science of Identity Foundation.
But this is big because it includes tens of thousands of pages of documents provided by someone who was, until very recently, a member of the Science of Identity Foundation who did digital strategy for several of Gabbard's congressional campaigns.
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