Sep 10, 2026 · 1 hr · 14 segments
In this episode, Morgan sits down with Sean, an entrepreneur and consciousness explorer, to unpack the deep spiritual laws that secretly govern reality and business. Sean shares his deeply personal…
Sean ClaytonGuest
Morgan NelsonHost
Most entrepreneurs function in a victim mind state, right? They're taking the trauma of their past.


If I'm an entrepreneur and I'm out there and I'm not in my creator mind state, what I'm consistently doing is I'm looking for the villain in my life and I'm looking for the hero in my life.

In that process, there's a thing called a victim triangle that forms where I'm constantly staying in the victim because I'm looking for the hero and I'm never the actual hero myself.

I'm looking for the villain that I'm constantly looking at to basically pull me backward.

And then through that, I stay in this victimhood, which creates a consistent pattern in my life to where I'm constantly falling backward.

if you look at concepts like christianity take who's the who's the hero you've got jesus jesus christ right who's the villain the devil yeah or uh judas right or judas yeah it could be that whatever it might be right yeah um and then who's the victim every single christian on earth ah okay so we now have that same pattern that shows up in our businesses Right? Because then if you're living in an Americanized or a Christianized kind of like place, it's predominantly Christian, which means that the spiritual root and the thing that you think is bigger than you is built off of a structure of victimhood, which is wild to think about.

You know, in my spiritual space, it's Jesus, right? In my business space, it's the big daddy war books with the money that's going to help me exit at some point, right? It's some mentor that's kind of showing me the path because I can't find it for myself.

And then I'm consistently looking for the villain of whether it was my bad business partner, whether it was my ex-wife, whether it is like my entire team who I claim sucks, right? But whatever it might be.

And so you're constantly looking for the villain, looking for the savior, and you're staying in this victimhood, right? So if you can understand that at a spiritual level, then it cascades everything else in your life.

If you can understand that at a spiritual level, yeah, as above, so below, as within, so without, you know, the whole hermetic principles, right? So there's a law of correspondence that says how you do one thing, you do all things, right? So if you can adjust one thing in your life, it'll adjust everywhere else in your life where you're out of integrity.

So if I have a different kind of spiritual relationship and I put myself in a creator position all the time, then what happens is my business starts to change, right? Because otherwise I'm out of integrity in my business, right? Because now I'm functioning as a victim inside of my spiritual life, which is also happening in my business.

But if I'm actually functioning as a creator in my spiritual life, how can I be a victim anywhere else? So the opposite of that victim triangle, right, is what they call like the base of the creator triangle.

So in the creator triangle, it's I go from I no longer have a villain in my life, right? I have a challenger.

Most entrepreneurs function in a victim mind state, right? They're taking the trauma of their past.


If I'm an entrepreneur and I'm out there and I'm not in my creator mind state, what I'm consistently doing is I'm looking for the villain in my life and I'm looking for the hero in my life.

In that process, there's a thing called a victim triangle that forms where I'm constantly staying in the victim because I'm looking for the hero and I'm never the actual hero myself.

I'm looking for the villain that I'm constantly looking at to basically pull me backward.

And then through that, I stay in this victimhood, which creates a consistent pattern in my life to where I'm constantly falling backward.

if you look at concepts like christianity take who's the who's the hero you've got jesus jesus christ right who's the villain the devil yeah or uh judas right or judas yeah it could be that whatever it might be right yeah um and then who's the victim every single christian on earth ah okay so we now have that same pattern that shows up in our businesses Right? Because then if you're living in an Americanized or a Christianized kind of like place, it's predominantly Christian, which means that the spiritual root and the thing that you think is bigger than you is built off of a structure of victimhood, which is wild to think about.

You know, in my spiritual space, it's Jesus, right? In my business space, it's the big daddy war books with the money that's going to help me exit at some point, right? It's some mentor that's kind of showing me the path because I can't find it for myself.

And then I'm consistently looking for the villain of whether it was my bad business partner, whether it was my ex-wife, whether it is like my entire team who I claim sucks, right? But whatever it might be.

And so you're constantly looking for the villain, looking for the savior, and you're staying in this victimhood, right? So if you can understand that at a spiritual level, then it cascades everything else in your life.

If you can understand that at a spiritual level, yeah, as above, so below, as within, so without, you know, the whole hermetic principles, right? So there's a law of correspondence that says how you do one thing, you do all things, right? So if you can adjust one thing in your life, it'll adjust everywhere else in your life where you're out of integrity.

So if I have a different kind of spiritual relationship and I put myself in a creator position all the time, then what happens is my business starts to change, right? Because otherwise I'm out of integrity in my business, right? Because now I'm functioning as a victim inside of my spiritual life, which is also happening in my business.

But if I'm actually functioning as a creator in my spiritual life, how can I be a victim anywhere else? So the opposite of that victim triangle, right, is what they call like the base of the creator triangle.

So in the creator triangle, it's I go from I no longer have a villain in my life, right? I have a challenger.
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