Daily Creative with Todd Henry
Aug 11, 2026 · 44 min · 9 segments
This episode pulls back the curtain on how creativity gets stifled—both in our early lives and inside our organizations—and explores practical ways to reclaim it. We start with the extraordinary…
Todd HenryHost
Andrew DietzGuestJana WernerGuest
Phil Le-BrunGuest
[gentle music] In the spring of 1942, a 16-year-old girl named Ruth Asawa was living with her mother and five of her siblings in two horse stalls on the Santa Anita racetrack just outside Los Angeles.

They were rounded up as part of the internment camps that the US government ran during World War II for Japanese American citizens.

She said later that the smell of horse manure never left the place the entire time they were there, and that is where her education as an artist began.

Because among the people imprisoned at Santa Anita were three animators from Walt Disney Studios, Chris Ishii, Tom Okamoto, Ben Tanaka.

They set up art classes in the grandstands of the racetrack and taught anybody who wanted to learn.

Ruth had spent her whole childhood working long hours on her family's farm, and now, for the first time in her life, she had nothing but time, so she drew every single day.

Then the war ended, and she won a scholarship to Milwaukee State Teachers College, where she spent three years studying to become an art teacher.

And in her final year, the college would not place her in the student teaching assignment she needed in order to graduate.

A fully accredited, fully funded American college with a faculty and board and a catalog and every ounce of institutional legitimacy you could ask for could not find a way to say yes to one student.

A friend told Asawa about a strange little school in the mountains of North Carolina.

Somewhere in there, she found the looped wire technique that made her one of the most significant American sculptors of the 20th century.

[gentle music] In the spring of 1942, a 16-year-old girl named Ruth Asawa was living with her mother and five of her siblings in two horse stalls on the Santa Anita racetrack just outside Los Angeles.

They were rounded up as part of the internment camps that the US government ran during World War II for Japanese American citizens.

She said later that the smell of horse manure never left the place the entire time they were there, and that is where her education as an artist began.

Because among the people imprisoned at Santa Anita were three animators from Walt Disney Studios, Chris Ishii, Tom Okamoto, Ben Tanaka.

They set up art classes in the grandstands of the racetrack and taught anybody who wanted to learn.

Ruth had spent her whole childhood working long hours on her family's farm, and now, for the first time in her life, she had nothing but time, so she drew every single day.

Then the war ended, and she won a scholarship to Milwaukee State Teachers College, where she spent three years studying to become an art teacher.

And in her final year, the college would not place her in the student teaching assignment she needed in order to graduate.

A fully accredited, fully funded American college with a faculty and board and a catalog and every ounce of institutional legitimacy you could ask for could not find a way to say yes to one student.

A friend told Asawa about a strange little school in the mountains of North Carolina.

Somewhere in there, she found the looped wire technique that made her one of the most significant American sculptors of the 20th century.
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