Could you just explain Black Mountain College and talk about why it was so extraordinary?

Yeah, Black Mountain College.

So if you...

The, the middle of the last century, from 1933 to 1957, this place, Black Mountain College, existed.

And even though it hasn't been around for a long time, its shadow, or maybe spotlight, the light it sh- cast, let's put it that way, not the shadow, but the light it's cast on the creative world continues to shine.

It's the only defunct college that has a museum still functioning in its name.

This place, which was really a bastion, a centerpiece of avant-garde creativity in America, maybe in the world, in the mid-20th century, existed not in New York, not in LA, i- in Black Mountain, North Carolina, 20 minutes east of, southeast of Asheville.

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