Oct 1, 2026 · 55 min · 11 segments
Canada is having a complicated moment. The country is experiencing increasingly destructive wildfires, extreme heat, floods and drought, while at same time pushing ahead with plans for more oil…
John VaillantGuest
Lynda SteeleHostMelanie NejiHost
There's hope, but there's also still, you know, sounding the alarm that we all need to do our part, and that we can't just sorta stick our fingers in our ears and say, "Oh, somehow we're just gonna get over this hump," 'cause we're not, not unless we all do something collectively to move the sticks forward into a world that is gonna be friendlier to the planet.
I [chuckles] wanna bring in, uh, Melanie Nagy again, just to have a little bit of a debrief about that conversation.
I mean, he is so knowledgeable about what's happening, and he just struck the right tone of being terrified, as a guy who really knows what's going on, but also having some hope, saying, "We've been through a lot, and we can do it again."
Like, there's some moments of that conversation where I just had such a sinking feeling in my stomach, and I was, like, physically kind of contracting.
He, he carries on the conversation, giving facts, giving information, but, and options for hope and, and trying to look for solutions and to not give up.
We have to take care of our families, pay our mortgages, and sometimes things are happening around us, and we're not connecting perhaps why the creek even in our backyard is dry this summer to the rest of the world.
And I think that was such an important reminder to try to actively connect the dots between what's happening in our climate, what's happening in the environment and science, and directly into our own lives and, and connecting the dots between the resources that we extract and, and that was one thing for sure.
Well, let me ask you then, because I know when we started this conversation, you talked about the tension, this complicated tension between climate change, climate crisis, but also coming from this resource community.
Has anything shifted, um, for you when it comes to the conversation and, and what you heard today?
There's hope, but there's also still, you know, sounding the alarm that we all need to do our part, and that we can't just sorta stick our fingers in our ears and say, "Oh, somehow we're just gonna get over this hump," 'cause we're not, not unless we all do something collectively to move the sticks forward into a world that is gonna be friendlier to the planet.
I [chuckles] wanna bring in, uh, Melanie Nagy again, just to have a little bit of a debrief about that conversation.
I mean, he is so knowledgeable about what's happening, and he just struck the right tone of being terrified, as a guy who really knows what's going on, but also having some hope, saying, "We've been through a lot, and we can do it again."
Like, there's some moments of that conversation where I just had such a sinking feeling in my stomach, and I was, like, physically kind of contracting.
He, he carries on the conversation, giving facts, giving information, but, and options for hope and, and trying to look for solutions and to not give up.
We have to take care of our families, pay our mortgages, and sometimes things are happening around us, and we're not connecting perhaps why the creek even in our backyard is dry this summer to the rest of the world.
And I think that was such an important reminder to try to actively connect the dots between what's happening in our climate, what's happening in the environment and science, and directly into our own lives and, and connecting the dots between the resources that we extract and, and that was one thing for sure.
Well, let me ask you then, because I know when we started this conversation, you talked about the tension, this complicated tension between climate change, climate crisis, but also coming from this resource community.
Has anything shifted, um, for you when it comes to the conversation and, and what you heard today?
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