Sep 17, 2026 · 57 min · 11 segments
Mentor Sessions Ep 096: Zack Shapiro explains AI existential risk, AI regulation, the Clarity Act, Samurai Wallet, and open source AI policy for Bitcoin. The Clarity Act just failed on the Senate…
Zack ShapiroGuestNathanHostNo, fair enough.
It's funny.
One thing that just immediately jumped out at me was one shot as a species.
I don't know if we're just people that are always going to be kind of innovators and willing to take on new technologies, but I just see that parallel.
Like we got one shot at fixing the money.
We got one shot at potentially surpassing human level super intelligence.
Let's not screw that up.
But before that, too, So the populist anger to me feels like, I don't know, maybe something even akin to when the Internet was first coming out.
Like it feels like a distrust of a new technology because they haven't really seen the benefits to themselves.
There's all the concern about I'm going to lose my job.
It's like you have no idea the productivity games or how cheap things could potentially be if the money wasn't an issue, which is another part of the conversation.
But in terms of productivity related to A.I., Do you think that that's maybe related to why there is this populace further against it, that really we're not, no one's effectively, or at least on a grand example, effectively using it to really boost output?

I think there are a lot of people out there, not a majority of people, but there are a lot of people who are getting pretty serious benefits from just interacting with retail-level chatbots, right? The fact that, I think especially just getting medical advice.


I think a lot of people are using AI in those small ways or using it as a travel guide when they go to a new city.

I think there are an increasing number of people who are seeing the benefits of individual level usage.

There are lots of people who are avoiding it for political or for other reasons.

Then there's when you talk about productivity, I think more about AI at the enterprise level.

How are large businesses using AI? There, I think we are seeing outside of the tech sector, which is a special case where I think we are actually seeing massive productivity.
No, fair enough.
It's funny.
One thing that just immediately jumped out at me was one shot as a species.
I don't know if we're just people that are always going to be kind of innovators and willing to take on new technologies, but I just see that parallel.
Like we got one shot at fixing the money.
We got one shot at potentially surpassing human level super intelligence.
Let's not screw that up.
But before that, too, So the populist anger to me feels like, I don't know, maybe something even akin to when the Internet was first coming out.
Like it feels like a distrust of a new technology because they haven't really seen the benefits to themselves.
There's all the concern about I'm going to lose my job.
It's like you have no idea the productivity games or how cheap things could potentially be if the money wasn't an issue, which is another part of the conversation.
But in terms of productivity related to A.I., Do you think that that's maybe related to why there is this populace further against it, that really we're not, no one's effectively, or at least on a grand example, effectively using it to really boost output?

I think there are a lot of people out there, not a majority of people, but there are a lot of people who are getting pretty serious benefits from just interacting with retail-level chatbots, right? The fact that, I think especially just getting medical advice.


I think a lot of people are using AI in those small ways or using it as a travel guide when they go to a new city.

I think there are an increasing number of people who are seeing the benefits of individual level usage.

There are lots of people who are avoiding it for political or for other reasons.

Then there's when you talk about productivity, I think more about AI at the enterprise level.

How are large businesses using AI? There, I think we are seeing outside of the tech sector, which is a special case where I think we are actually seeing massive productivity.
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