David Bowie Says Hello
An unexpected visitor transformed the band's mood.
Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond
Aug 18, 2026 · 55 min · 26 segments
Daniel Kessler grew up between London, Paris, and Washington, D.C., listening to his older brother’s early UK rock records. He picked up guitar as a teenager, the same day he quit skateboarding, and…
Daniel KesslerGuestLeah RoseHostDid you have a moment where you sort of, like, thought back over the catalog or listened to old recordings and consciously thought, like, "These are the things I want to bring in," or was that a conversation with Andrew, or did that sort of just evolve naturally?

I'm, I'm, uh, personally, I'm, I'm best when I don't think conceptually too much about what I want to do or- I think when we don't discuss, I mean, maybe I'm a little bit of a, you know, a s- stickler in my old ways or something.

But like, I d- you know, when we don't start talking about grandiose ideas or con- conceptual ideas rather than just do them.

But when we, you know, when it's more of like a, a conceptual conversation, I find those are harder to lift off versus the ones that we're actually just doing it.

And I think we're, we're kinda good at just mixing it up, and we're very different people.

so when we are mixing together, usually the results can kinda go in different ways.

Um, for me, as far as, like even just, like the, you know, the onset of just writing, I don't know, I was pretty excited about some of the stuff that I was working on.

I, I'd written a little before previously on the piano, but it's not something I do all the time.

So the fact that there's already three songs that felt very different for us.

Um, and then there were some songs, as I was writing them, I felt like maybe the progression, I kinda pushed myself a little bit further to maybe-

Like, I felt like they were going down too much of a familiar road, so then I, I kind of reworked that and consequently came out with, like new results, whether it was, like weird sort of, um, rhythm sort of signatures or, or vibes.
Did you have a moment where you sort of, like, thought back over the catalog or listened to old recordings and consciously thought, like, "These are the things I want to bring in," or was that a conversation with Andrew, or did that sort of just evolve naturally?

I'm, I'm, uh, personally, I'm, I'm best when I don't think conceptually too much about what I want to do or- I think when we don't discuss, I mean, maybe I'm a little bit of a, you know, a s- stickler in my old ways or something.

But like, I d- you know, when we don't start talking about grandiose ideas or con- conceptual ideas rather than just do them.

But when we, you know, when it's more of like a, a conceptual conversation, I find those are harder to lift off versus the ones that we're actually just doing it.

And I think we're, we're kinda good at just mixing it up, and we're very different people.

so when we are mixing together, usually the results can kinda go in different ways.

Um, for me, as far as, like even just, like the, you know, the onset of just writing, I don't know, I was pretty excited about some of the stuff that I was working on.

I, I'd written a little before previously on the piano, but it's not something I do all the time.

So the fact that there's already three songs that felt very different for us.

Um, and then there were some songs, as I was writing them, I felt like maybe the progression, I kinda pushed myself a little bit further to maybe-

Like, I felt like they were going down too much of a familiar road, so then I, I kind of reworked that and consequently came out with, like new results, whether it was, like weird sort of, um, rhythm sort of signatures or, or vibes.
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