Paul McCartney: Chaos and Creation in the Backyard, with Rob Collier

if the demand is there we will do it so let's hear it let's hear it from you obviously your your history with paul mccartney and his music goes back quite a bit farther than this album um and some of that context has been shared in previous episodes so i don't think i don't think and dave perner was a part of uh some of your uh

oh that's true

previous episodes for for beatles and backbeat um yeah i kind of think

of yeah mccartney as being like my number one a musical influence, and then Dave Perner's probably number two.

And they're so intertwined that it's really just

one

super influence.

But I'm sure the context will come.

But let's talk about this album.

Do you remember it coming out in 2005?

Kind of.

This was not like a big, momentous McCartney album for me, like some of his albums have been.

I mean, I got it shortly after it came out.

I remember leading up to its release, I remember knowing that Nigel Godrich was producing it and being excited, like, yeah, maybe he's going to push McCartney into some weird places.

So I really became a Beatles fan in 1993, the first part.

big mccartney release while i was a fan was flaming pie and so flaming pie is like that yeah that was like my teenage mccartney album that was like the new music that mccartney was making while i was a teenage fan and that flaming pie is still like i don't know if it's my favorite mccartney album but it it's the most nostalgic mccartney album for me and so yeah chaos and creation i was a little bit older uh when this came out um and it did not have the same kind of excitement for me that flaming pie had or even like as we were recording this mccartney released an album like a week ago a week and a half ago I was more excited for this album that he released 10 days ago than I was for Chaos and Creation.

But I remember being intrigued about this album largely because of the Nigel Godrich

connection.

Yeah.

How is the newest one? I haven't listened yet.

i love it i've listened to yeah the first

first time i listened to it i was like i was kind of

like ah okay some like kind of cool songs some weird stuff happening and then i listened to it a few more times and yeah i really love it i think i don't know about like if it's his best album in a long time but it's it's maybe my favorite of his albums since Maybe Memory Almost Full, which I think was the follow-up to Chaos and Creation.

I loved Memory Almost Full.

I still love Memory Almost Full.