Jun 15, 2026 · 3 hr 1 min · 9 segments
Erik Fleming hosts a powerful episode featuring three guests: Crystal FitzSimons of the Food Research & Action Center on hunger and federal nutrition policy; Pauline Steinhorn, author of Dreaming of…
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But she wrote a commentary about I haven't been able to get on a podcast yet, but we'll see how that works out.

But she wrote something that caught my attention and I wanted to share it with you all.

In response to a white man's massacre of nine beloved community members of Mother Emanuel, a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, it grieves me to this day that in their final moments on this earth, they welcomed him into
their Bible study.
I thought then that this horrific hate crime would cause white people in mosques

I thought, in particular, white parents would endeavor to raise better children.

Eleven years later, even after the mass uprising of 2020 and anti-racism books read, here we are.

Last week, a jury acquitted Rick Chow of murder in the death of Cyrus Carmack Belton, a 14-year-old black boy who was running away from Chow's store, shot in the back over a bottle of water he did not take.

Yesterday, a jury in Frisco, Texas, sentenced Carmelo Anthony, 19 years old and black, to 35 years for the death of a white teenager after a fight at a high school track meet.

The prosecution struck every black juror who could have sat in judgment of him.

After all the book clubs and black squares and promises, a Collin County courtroom still could not seat a single black person to weigh the life of a black child.

This is what I meant when I said part of the problem, not only the men who kill the ordinary white people who build the rooms, fill the juries, raise the children and call neutral.

But a system that can't imagine a black teenager is anything other than a threat.

It is the same fear that has been killing black people for 400 plus years, wearing a robe and calling itself the law.

And the only way that fear ends is if we white people recognize that it is wrong and not feel it anymore.

But she wrote a commentary about I haven't been able to get on a podcast yet, but we'll see how that works out.

But she wrote something that caught my attention and I wanted to share it with you all.

In response to a white man's massacre of nine beloved community members of Mother Emanuel, a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, it grieves me to this day that in their final moments on this earth, they welcomed him into
their Bible study.
I thought then that this horrific hate crime would cause white people in mosques

I thought, in particular, white parents would endeavor to raise better children.

Eleven years later, even after the mass uprising of 2020 and anti-racism books read, here we are.

Last week, a jury acquitted Rick Chow of murder in the death of Cyrus Carmack Belton, a 14-year-old black boy who was running away from Chow's store, shot in the back over a bottle of water he did not take.

Yesterday, a jury in Frisco, Texas, sentenced Carmelo Anthony, 19 years old and black, to 35 years for the death of a white teenager after a fight at a high school track meet.

The prosecution struck every black juror who could have sat in judgment of him.

After all the book clubs and black squares and promises, a Collin County courtroom still could not seat a single black person to weigh the life of a black child.

This is what I meant when I said part of the problem, not only the men who kill the ordinary white people who build the rooms, fill the juries, raise the children and call neutral.

But a system that can't imagine a black teenager is anything other than a threat.

It is the same fear that has been killing black people for 400 plus years, wearing a robe and calling itself the law.

And the only way that fear ends is if we white people recognize that it is wrong and not feel it anymore.
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