Jun 16, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min · 10 segments
In this episode of 87:60, BJ Kito sits down with James Dowd, Chief Operations Officer and Chief Creative Officer at Rebellion Group, to talk about AI’s impact on jobs and innovation, brand integrity…
BJ KitoHostJames DowdGuest
What's your response? Not subject matter related or whatever, but I think the biggest thing I get asked is just generally, what's the impact it's going to have? Is it going to take jobs? How's it changing every
Well, I find that, you know, not just about the job signal, right? Leave Outside is just AI
new tools, new approaches, new processes, new ways of thinking, new ways of working.
Oh wow, this platform does this and it's free and it, you know, what we were doing for 12 hours, we can actually do it in an hour now.
So, oh my god, look at this new thing, we're able to cut this data analysis thing down, and oh my god, amazing, they turn around and they go right back to the way things always were, right? It

does seem like, from the angle you were coming from, there are more lists and articles talking about all the different tools that could be used for these various use cases.

But then to your point, it seems like the people that created the list never actually went and used the tool because they're not really what they claim to be yet, right? Or like they don't do all of those things, you know, start to finish.

So it's like, we're living in this like, oh, now there's 40 tools that have come across our desk in the last two days about like how to build websites faster.

But like when you actually go to use it, it's not just like, Close your eyes, talk to your computer, and all
I've had that experience where I will, because I like to play around with quote-unquote new tools, where on one hand I'm saying, holy shit, is there a influencer-type market that's happening where they're pushing the use of this tool and I'm just being sold to, and it's actually shit? Yeah, so on the other hand, I'm going, wait, I ran the tool once.

What's your response? Not subject matter related or whatever, but I think the biggest thing I get asked is just generally, what's the impact it's going to have? Is it going to take jobs? How's it changing every
Well, I find that, you know, not just about the job signal, right? Leave Outside is just AI
new tools, new approaches, new processes, new ways of thinking, new ways of working.
Oh wow, this platform does this and it's free and it, you know, what we were doing for 12 hours, we can actually do it in an hour now.
So, oh my god, look at this new thing, we're able to cut this data analysis thing down, and oh my god, amazing, they turn around and they go right back to the way things always were, right? It

does seem like, from the angle you were coming from, there are more lists and articles talking about all the different tools that could be used for these various use cases.

But then to your point, it seems like the people that created the list never actually went and used the tool because they're not really what they claim to be yet, right? Or like they don't do all of those things, you know, start to finish.

So it's like, we're living in this like, oh, now there's 40 tools that have come across our desk in the last two days about like how to build websites faster.

But like when you actually go to use it, it's not just like, Close your eyes, talk to your computer, and all
I've had that experience where I will, because I like to play around with quote-unquote new tools, where on one hand I'm saying, holy shit, is there a influencer-type market that's happening where they're pushing the use of this tool and I'm just being sold to, and it's actually shit? Yeah, so on the other hand, I'm going, wait, I ran the tool once.
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