Oct 7, 2026 · 44 min · 9 segments
Welcome to Your Corner of the World with Dan Doriani and Mark Vroegop, a podcast with and for Christians engaging their work with the love and justice of the Lord Jesus. Both Dan and Mark have…
So, uh, you started off in this journey, you're doing the podcast, you're writing the book, and then I think you begin to notice, which is you and I have talked about this, this gap between business leader experience or marketplace leader, just work experience, and church experience.
Can you just diagnose that? 'Cause part of the reason that we're doing this podcast is actually to try and speak into that gap.
So could you define for our listeners what's the problem that we're trying to solve, if you will, or just try to help with?
And, and I want to kick it back to you because you have a lot to say about this as well, but I'll, I'll start us off.
So you and I both talked about level one hundred, two hundred, and three hundred, and I want to hear you about level two hundred, which is what we labeled yours for some reason or other.
He saved you, but he didn't just save you from destruction, death, judgment of God.
He also saved you to serve him for the common good, to love your neighbor as yourself.
And we work, you know, ten thousand hours easily in a lifetime, probably much more than that.
And therefore, the, the most obvious place in which we love our neighbors ourself is probably the workplace because we have training, we usually have capital, we usually have a team, so if we have a defect, we all have defects.
If we have a defect or a gap, we have a team of five or ten people, and together we can accomplish things that we could never accomplish by ourselves.
So, uh, you started off in this journey, you're doing the podcast, you're writing the book, and then I think you begin to notice, which is you and I have talked about this, this gap between business leader experience or marketplace leader, just work experience, and church experience.
Can you just diagnose that? 'Cause part of the reason that we're doing this podcast is actually to try and speak into that gap.
So could you define for our listeners what's the problem that we're trying to solve, if you will, or just try to help with?
And, and I want to kick it back to you because you have a lot to say about this as well, but I'll, I'll start us off.
So you and I both talked about level one hundred, two hundred, and three hundred, and I want to hear you about level two hundred, which is what we labeled yours for some reason or other.
He saved you, but he didn't just save you from destruction, death, judgment of God.
He also saved you to serve him for the common good, to love your neighbor as yourself.
And we work, you know, ten thousand hours easily in a lifetime, probably much more than that.
And therefore, the, the most obvious place in which we love our neighbors ourself is probably the workplace because we have training, we usually have capital, we usually have a team, so if we have a defect, we all have defects.
If we have a defect or a gap, we have a team of five or ten people, and together we can accomplish things that we could never accomplish by ourselves.
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