What Solar Installers Need To Know (by Sunvoy)
Jul 13, 2026 · 45 min · 13 segments
Barry Cinnamon has been through just about every solar cycle the industry has seen. In this episode, Hervé sits down with the founder of Akeena Solar to unpack what 25 years in solar has taught him…
Barry CinnamonGuestHervé BillierHostI'm still wrapping my mind around myself around, should we have incentives in the solar industry? Now that the ITC is gone, if you had a magic wand, do you want to have it back? Or are you more in the camp of like, well, without government incentives, you wouldn't have those variations.
Remember how like you open different businesses multiple times because incentives changed? If there's no incentive, it would be a more steady market.

There was one big financing company whose CEO at one point says exactly what you suggested, which is the solar industry shouldn't have incentives.


And this individual subsequently built a pretty big financing company, one of the very biggest ones.

It really helps to have an economic advantage over the oil and gas companies who also have a big economic advantage.

And you need that also, especially when you've got a poorly regulated utility market like we have in California.

You really need to help the homes and the businesses and the installers as much as you possibly can with incentives because the deck is so heavily, heavily stacked against electricity users.
I'm still wrapping my mind around myself around, should we have incentives in the solar industry? Now that the ITC is gone, if you had a magic wand, do you want to have it back? Or are you more in the camp of like, well, without government incentives, you wouldn't have those variations.
Remember how like you open different businesses multiple times because incentives changed? If there's no incentive, it would be a more steady market.

There was one big financing company whose CEO at one point says exactly what you suggested, which is the solar industry shouldn't have incentives.


And this individual subsequently built a pretty big financing company, one of the very biggest ones.

It really helps to have an economic advantage over the oil and gas companies who also have a big economic advantage.

And you need that also, especially when you've got a poorly regulated utility market like we have in California.

You really need to help the homes and the businesses and the installers as much as you possibly can with incentives because the deck is so heavily, heavily stacked against electricity users.
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