Sep 14, 2026 · 47 min · 11 segments
Policy used to be background noise. Now it's the thing moving markets. On today’s episode our host David Stubbs is joined by Jason Cole, Head of Government Affairs at Future Standard and a veteran of…
Now, Jason, I remember probably pre-COVID, public policy was kind of a background issue.
I mean, when you look at the backdrop today, how has the world of policy and investing changed vis-a-vis pre-COVID and pre-GFC even?
I think I think the number one shit shift and this isn't an immediate one, but it's happened over time.
And that is the use of executive power, often through declaring emergencies of one order or another.
versus using regular order through Congress to move policy and to shape policy outcomes.
It's a wave of a magic wand versus a slow, frustrating, messy legislative process.
It's arguably prone to backlash, and I think you've seen this over the last few election cycles, where you get reactions to executive actions.
And it's interesting that you mention two events, the GFC and COVID, as sort of precursors to this, because I think both of those events demanded action.
swift action to prevent an economic calamity in the case of GFC, and frankly, also in the case of COVID.
And relying on sort of the slow, deliberate legislative process didn't really work for those two circumstances.
But I think you've seen this movement by both parties when they're in the White House to pursue swift and aggressive executive actions.
And I think in my career, that's probably the biggest shift that we've seen here.
Now, Jason, I remember probably pre-COVID, public policy was kind of a background issue.
I mean, when you look at the backdrop today, how has the world of policy and investing changed vis-a-vis pre-COVID and pre-GFC even?
I think I think the number one shit shift and this isn't an immediate one, but it's happened over time.
And that is the use of executive power, often through declaring emergencies of one order or another.
versus using regular order through Congress to move policy and to shape policy outcomes.
It's a wave of a magic wand versus a slow, frustrating, messy legislative process.
It's arguably prone to backlash, and I think you've seen this over the last few election cycles, where you get reactions to executive actions.
And it's interesting that you mention two events, the GFC and COVID, as sort of precursors to this, because I think both of those events demanded action.
swift action to prevent an economic calamity in the case of GFC, and frankly, also in the case of COVID.
And relying on sort of the slow, deliberate legislative process didn't really work for those two circumstances.
But I think you've seen this movement by both parties when they're in the White House to pursue swift and aggressive executive actions.
And I think in my career, that's probably the biggest shift that we've seen here.
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