Oct 7, 2026 · 2 hr 12 min · 13 segments
What does it take to redefine an entire sport and continually push beyond what everyone believes is possible?In this unforgettable episode of Unblinded, Sean Callagy sits down with legendary waterman…
Sean CallagyHost
Jennifer CohenGuest
Do you guys think you have something of value for people that isn't obvious and is on the cutting edge? Do you think you have that?
Yes.

On three, I want you to say what that is in a way that would open the listening of people the most.

So what you're literally witnessing is exactly what you can do, except this amazing master did it.

And I'm hallucinating, Jennifer, that it wasn't, um, a text message that had Jack Dorsey come on.

And if, and I'd love for you to really just, like, slow yourself down for a second, if you could, and really think through how many communications were involved from the first text or phone call to the person you knew who knew Jack Dorsey, to his team, his people, texts, emails, phone calls, all the way-

But, uh, but how many different conversations? Do you think it was, like, five or less, five or more? Not just conversations, texts, emails, stuff.

Was it more than 10? Was it more than 15 or 20? Like, if you just really kinda thought through it for a second, how many do you think it was until you got Jack Dorsey on?

And I'll tell you something, th- [laughs] so now that I'm thinking back, this is even the funnier part.

Are you ready? My first interview that was an extraordinarily big one, [scoffs] because I was so amateur at that time, the person that was doing the sound of that podcast screwed it up, and I couldn't even-

Do you guys think you have something of value for people that isn't obvious and is on the cutting edge? Do you think you have that?
Yes.

On three, I want you to say what that is in a way that would open the listening of people the most.

So what you're literally witnessing is exactly what you can do, except this amazing master did it.

And I'm hallucinating, Jennifer, that it wasn't, um, a text message that had Jack Dorsey come on.

And if, and I'd love for you to really just, like, slow yourself down for a second, if you could, and really think through how many communications were involved from the first text or phone call to the person you knew who knew Jack Dorsey, to his team, his people, texts, emails, phone calls, all the way-

But, uh, but how many different conversations? Do you think it was, like, five or less, five or more? Not just conversations, texts, emails, stuff.

Was it more than 10? Was it more than 15 or 20? Like, if you just really kinda thought through it for a second, how many do you think it was until you got Jack Dorsey on?

And I'll tell you something, th- [laughs] so now that I'm thinking back, this is even the funnier part.

Are you ready? My first interview that was an extraordinarily big one, [scoffs] because I was so amateur at that time, the person that was doing the sound of that podcast screwed it up, and I couldn't even-
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