Oct 16, 2026 · 40 min · 12 segments
Host Jason Michael Perry sits down with Dr. Heather Miller Rubens, executive director and Roman Catholic scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian, and Jewish Studies (ICJS), to discuss what…
And his worry is that technology is cutting us loose from the ethics and responsibility to make decisions, that it's making it easier or making it impersonal for us to do things that may cause people to die, and that this is something that we should worry about.
who makes a decision, you know, if AI is making a decision versus humans having to make this decision.
And the second thing that it's impacting is an imagination, a human vision of what could be possible.
If we have a huge problem or a huge challenge like war making, then what are the possibilities towards getting towards peace? And how do we sort of imagine that being where we want to go? And so those two aspects, decision making with a sort of subset of accountability for decision making and then a moral imagination that allows you to get to a place of peace are both related to this concept.
And I would specify that I anticipate some more concrete teaching around just war and just war theory to come out of the Vatican in the next couple of years that will elaborate on these questions even further.
Imagination was one of the other things that was flagged many, many different times.
And I think we all know now that these models work by predicting the next word.
And that there's a fear that this may blunt the imagination that we have as humans.
especially if we sort of hand over that kind of creative part of a process to a machine.
He's not condemning AI, nor is he saying that it's all good and going to save humanity.
And his worry is that technology is cutting us loose from the ethics and responsibility to make decisions, that it's making it easier or making it impersonal for us to do things that may cause people to die, and that this is something that we should worry about.
who makes a decision, you know, if AI is making a decision versus humans having to make this decision.
And the second thing that it's impacting is an imagination, a human vision of what could be possible.
If we have a huge problem or a huge challenge like war making, then what are the possibilities towards getting towards peace? And how do we sort of imagine that being where we want to go? And so those two aspects, decision making with a sort of subset of accountability for decision making and then a moral imagination that allows you to get to a place of peace are both related to this concept.
And I would specify that I anticipate some more concrete teaching around just war and just war theory to come out of the Vatican in the next couple of years that will elaborate on these questions even further.
Imagination was one of the other things that was flagged many, many different times.
And I think we all know now that these models work by predicting the next word.
And that there's a fear that this may blunt the imagination that we have as humans.
especially if we sort of hand over that kind of creative part of a process to a machine.
He's not condemning AI, nor is he saying that it's all good and going to save humanity.
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