Oct 13, 2026 · 34 min · 10 segments
https://muzamilhasan.com/podcast/applyAre electric vehicles actually taking over Pakistan, or are drivers suffering from severe "range anxiety"? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I…
Muzamil HasanHost
What's your, what's your traction right now in terms of the users, in terms of daily usage and stuff like that?
That's the whole number, right? Our daily हमारे at least we get 1,000, uh, you know, users almost, you know who are actively using the app.
So yeah that's a-- look for a Pakistani app that's a pretty good number, um, you know for us.

So obviously, you know AI helped me a lot in this। वरना तो because obviously you have to have like a huge team, right? But again एक चीज इसमें यह भी करूंगा somebody who hasn't had experience in this field, जिसको ना know-how होती, वो on its own ना कर सकता है AI से। I have around like 15 साल का experience जिसकी वजह से I was able to even use AI to you know create something like this, right? And obviously उसको market करना, लोगों की psyche समझना कि लोगों को you know क्या पसंद है, क्या नहीं है and obviously I've worked as a designer as well in you know early parts of my career। तो मुझे पता था you know कि कौन simple रखना है, ज्यादा you know-
You know मैंने कुछ इसके अंदर ads कुछ भी नहीं लगाए। You know you've seen annoying apps होती हैं जिसमें every few seconds pop-ups आते हैं and all that.
I was like, नहीं you know I would rather you know pay out of my own pocket for the database and everything but मैं इसको annoying app नहीं बनाऊंगा। You know that, that's what I want.
I want it to look, look like a premium app। क्योंकि जो लोग use भी कर रहे हैं app को you know they are obviously spending so much on expensive cars they want like a seamless experience.

What's your, what's your traction right now in terms of the users, in terms of daily usage and stuff like that?
That's the whole number, right? Our daily हमारे at least we get 1,000, uh, you know, users almost, you know who are actively using the app.
So yeah that's a-- look for a Pakistani app that's a pretty good number, um, you know for us.

So obviously, you know AI helped me a lot in this। वरना तो because obviously you have to have like a huge team, right? But again एक चीज इसमें यह भी करूंगा somebody who hasn't had experience in this field, जिसको ना know-how होती, वो on its own ना कर सकता है AI से। I have around like 15 साल का experience जिसकी वजह से I was able to even use AI to you know create something like this, right? And obviously उसको market करना, लोगों की psyche समझना कि लोगों को you know क्या पसंद है, क्या नहीं है and obviously I've worked as a designer as well in you know early parts of my career। तो मुझे पता था you know कि कौन simple रखना है, ज्यादा you know-
You know मैंने कुछ इसके अंदर ads कुछ भी नहीं लगाए। You know you've seen annoying apps होती हैं जिसमें every few seconds pop-ups आते हैं and all that.
I was like, नहीं you know I would rather you know pay out of my own pocket for the database and everything but मैं इसको annoying app नहीं बनाऊंगा। You know that, that's what I want.
I want it to look, look like a premium app। क्योंकि जो लोग use भी कर रहे हैं app को you know they are obviously spending so much on expensive cars they want like a seamless experience.
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