Range extender

Yeah, you're

getting into one of my topics that I have a beef about, which is, is an eRev and a plug-in hybrid fundamentally the same or different? I think to the average consumer, they really are the same, although the engineers disagree with me.

Yeah, exactly.

but i could also see gm doing a an

Actually, we see the growth in battery, BEV, yes, but also the PHEV.

REEV, and this year even HEEV, not only in China, but also exporting product portfolio.

So there will be a long time for coexisting of different powertrain pathways.

Absolutely.

The same sort of thing that...

Yeah, it's like the same sort of thing that Honda can do because that's the other interesting thing is that eRev system, plug-in hybrid system, the design is very much like Honda's hybrid system.

But Honda has only ever bothered to give us like one hybrid battery pack and the two engines, one of them's not even used anymore.

But they haven't been willing to create these different versions and change them and improve them and constantly tweak them.

China is, some months, last month, 67% NEV.

That is plug socket on the side, so plug-in hybrid, eREV, or pure BEV.

But the majority of those are pure BEV.

67% in the month.

The cheaper entry-level model and the dual motor version have gone, leaving one extended range model and one fully electric model.

List prices start at $32,900 for the eRev and $34,500 for the all-electric version.

Avatar is a premium brand, by the way.

The limited time incentives brings them down by about $3,000 apiece.

One last story.

The Hyundai Santa Fe is is due for a refresh and it's apparently going to be getting one in conjunction with the arrival of its EREV powertrain next year, next spring.

And what do you think of the design of the current Santa Fe?

I mean, it's just a blocky off, you know.

Right.

So what vehicles count? Well, this is really interesting because I learned something here that I've said incorrectly on my podcast before about EREVs, extended range electric vehicles.

We'll take a break.

I'll take a slurp.

But up at highway speeds, the engine can clutch into the front axle and use the fossil fuel to actually provide forward momentum.

So that, that would be a plug-in hybrid.

Whereas most other EREVs, the engine's just a generator, right? So like the Leapmotor C10 EREV version.

Sold in the UK already.