Jul 6, 2026 · 53 min · 11 segments
On The Wise Effort show, Diana Hill talks with Dr. Joseph Ciarrochi, a researcher in process-based therapy and ACT, about self-righteous anger and how to stay honest and kind when others aren’t. They…
Joseph CiarrochiGuestDiana HillHostYou came up with this idea of talking about basically how to be a decent human to stay honest and kind in the face of someone not being decent to you.
And that can show up on the basketball court or it can show up in the workplace or it can show up in your family.

And the image of Christ, when I was in my Christian training, did not appeal to me because it felt like he was being passive and just a victim.

I was trying to become a agent for my future and to be active and not be passive like somebody up on a cross.

So the reason I mentioned that is because I've really changed my understanding of that story, that Christ story.

Any kind of consideration of how we treat these immigrants or these others is weakness if you're not harsh.

And I was convinced that was strength for a long time, but I think I've come around now to understanding what that image of Christ means for me.

It is that he fully knew people, like their sin, the fact that he'd been betrayed.
You came up with this idea of talking about basically how to be a decent human to stay honest and kind in the face of someone not being decent to you.
And that can show up on the basketball court or it can show up in the workplace or it can show up in your family.

And the image of Christ, when I was in my Christian training, did not appeal to me because it felt like he was being passive and just a victim.

I was trying to become a agent for my future and to be active and not be passive like somebody up on a cross.

So the reason I mentioned that is because I've really changed my understanding of that story, that Christ story.

Any kind of consideration of how we treat these immigrants or these others is weakness if you're not harsh.

And I was convinced that was strength for a long time, but I think I've come around now to understanding what that image of Christ means for me.

It is that he fully knew people, like their sin, the fact that he'd been betrayed.
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