Nov 12, 2025 · 1 hr 37 min · 17 segments
**Ben Patrick**, better known as “Kneesovertoesguy” (@kneesovertoesguy), is the founder of…
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Ben Patrick is better known as Knee Over Toes Guy, and you can find him on Instagram and everywhere else as kneesovertoesguy.
He is the founder of Athletic Truth Group, ATG, an online and brick and mortar training system rooted in rehabilitative strength and joint health.
After years of debilitating knee and shin pain, including multiple surgeries, he rebuilt his body from the ground up, and his performance going from sub-20-inch vertical to a documented 42-inch leap.
He's become a phenomenon online, and I should note, there is a companion video for this episode, where Ben and I walk through all of the exercises we discuss together.
So if you want to see me with beginner's eyes going through this, asking questions with him, then you can check it out, and you can find that on youtube.com/timferriss, T-I-M F-E-R-R-I-S-S.
You can also find a video pinned on Ben's Instagram that's kneesovertoesguy, and that runs through a more comprehensive version of what we did in person.
But if you want the minimum effective dose, go to the youtube.com/timferriss, and you'll see what we did, especially making some adjustments for my current back pain.
And if you want to see the more comprehensive stuff, you can check out his Instagram.
Ben asked me some questions about how to navigate different decisions and integrity and so on in podcasting, business, et cetera, and we actually spent a good amount of time on that towards the end of this conversation if that's of interest.
Without further ado, please enjoy a wide-ranging conversation with Ben Patrick, and don't forget about the companion videos at youtube.com/timferriss, as well as @kneesovertoesguy pinned post on Instagram.
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Ben Patrick is better known as Knee Over Toes Guy, and you can find him on Instagram and everywhere else as kneesovertoesguy.
He is the founder of Athletic Truth Group, ATG, an online and brick and mortar training system rooted in rehabilitative strength and joint health.
After years of debilitating knee and shin pain, including multiple surgeries, he rebuilt his body from the ground up, and his performance going from sub-20-inch vertical to a documented 42-inch leap.
He's become a phenomenon online, and I should note, there is a companion video for this episode, where Ben and I walk through all of the exercises we discuss together.
So if you want to see me with beginner's eyes going through this, asking questions with him, then you can check it out, and you can find that on youtube.com/timferriss, T-I-M F-E-R-R-I-S-S.
You can also find a video pinned on Ben's Instagram that's kneesovertoesguy, and that runs through a more comprehensive version of what we did in person.
But if you want the minimum effective dose, go to the youtube.com/timferriss, and you'll see what we did, especially making some adjustments for my current back pain.
And if you want to see the more comprehensive stuff, you can check out his Instagram.
Ben asked me some questions about how to navigate different decisions and integrity and so on in podcasting, business, et cetera, and we actually spent a good amount of time on that towards the end of this conversation if that's of interest.
Without further ado, please enjoy a wide-ranging conversation with Ben Patrick, and don't forget about the companion videos at youtube.com/timferriss, as well as @kneesovertoesguy pinned post on Instagram.