The Testing Psychologist Podcast
Jul 20, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 18 segments
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Alison BuchholzGuest
Jeremy SharpHost
I think it'd be good to revisit some of the history of FND and if there's any more history to talk about.

But, you know, just some basics, like what are the different types historically? How do we diagnose them?

So again, so this phenomenon has been around since the beginning of human existence, as far as we know.

I mean, there's evidence of it dating back to ancient Egyptian times and some of the artworks and scriptures.

We've just evolved a lot, particularly in the past couple of decades in terms of what we know about FND and therefore how we're thinking about it and talking about it and writing about it and assessing and treating it.

So, yeah, I mean, up until the past couple of decades, the prevailing theory really was that sort of Freudian psychoanalytic, psychodynamic theory that all folks who developed these otherwise unexplained neurologic symptoms must have some sort of major, quote unquote, psychiatric problem or cause.

And certainly, don't get me wrong, I mean, lots of folks, just like lots of folks without FND, lots of folks with FND, sure, do have mental health issues.

But that is neither necessary nor sufficient for developing or being diagnosed with FND.

So again, I think the point is, is that we really missed the mark for a long time assuming that that FND was due, quote unquote, strictly to a psychological problem.

And I'll just maybe go off on a little bit of a hopefully relevant tangent here about that.

I think one of one of the biggest problems, I think, in in FND and probably, frankly, lots of areas of medicine that relate to the brain is this dualism or this dichotomy that we've evolved into where we think about things as being either neurologic or psychiatric or psychological.

those of us who work in this space, probably particularly neuropsychologists, hopefully many of us realize that the brain is the brain and the mind and the brain are really sometimes impossible to separate and they really aren't separate.

I just bring that up because I think that's another reason why we haven't been able to help people with FND as much as we want to.

And I think it's because we've gotten kind of stuck in this sort of false dichotomy or dualism where we think about things as either one or the other.

And because of that, part of the sort of barrier to progress in the evolution of thinking about and acting around FND really has been due to that.

So there's been this debate among doctors and health care providers and researchers about, is this neurologic or is this psychiatric? And there's been a lot of, I think, unhelpful time and energy invested into people arguing for one versus the other.

I think it'd be good to revisit some of the history of FND and if there's any more history to talk about.

But, you know, just some basics, like what are the different types historically? How do we diagnose them?

So again, so this phenomenon has been around since the beginning of human existence, as far as we know.

I mean, there's evidence of it dating back to ancient Egyptian times and some of the artworks and scriptures.

We've just evolved a lot, particularly in the past couple of decades in terms of what we know about FND and therefore how we're thinking about it and talking about it and writing about it and assessing and treating it.

So, yeah, I mean, up until the past couple of decades, the prevailing theory really was that sort of Freudian psychoanalytic, psychodynamic theory that all folks who developed these otherwise unexplained neurologic symptoms must have some sort of major, quote unquote, psychiatric problem or cause.

And certainly, don't get me wrong, I mean, lots of folks, just like lots of folks without FND, lots of folks with FND, sure, do have mental health issues.

But that is neither necessary nor sufficient for developing or being diagnosed with FND.

So again, I think the point is, is that we really missed the mark for a long time assuming that that FND was due, quote unquote, strictly to a psychological problem.

And I'll just maybe go off on a little bit of a hopefully relevant tangent here about that.

I think one of one of the biggest problems, I think, in in FND and probably, frankly, lots of areas of medicine that relate to the brain is this dualism or this dichotomy that we've evolved into where we think about things as being either neurologic or psychiatric or psychological.

those of us who work in this space, probably particularly neuropsychologists, hopefully many of us realize that the brain is the brain and the mind and the brain are really sometimes impossible to separate and they really aren't separate.

I just bring that up because I think that's another reason why we haven't been able to help people with FND as much as we want to.

And I think it's because we've gotten kind of stuck in this sort of false dichotomy or dualism where we think about things as either one or the other.

And because of that, part of the sort of barrier to progress in the evolution of thinking about and acting around FND really has been due to that.

So there's been this debate among doctors and health care providers and researchers about, is this neurologic or is this psychiatric? And there's been a lot of, I think, unhelpful time and energy invested into people arguing for one versus the other.
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