Sep 6, 2026 · 55 min · 10 segments
For two decades, the winning formula in consumer tech was simple: maximize time on screen. Last month that formula got a multibillion-dollar price tag attached to it when Meta agreed to pay roughly…
Oren CharnoffGuest
James SpiroHost

It feels like, again, because of what's possible with AI on distribution, because of the introduction of a generational platform change that consumers are discovering in a new way online, builders are building in a new way online.

Hi folks, James here, and welcome to the Spiro Circle, this time in collaboration with Forbes Israel.

I've badgered on on this show about Startup Nation, Israeli tech, and some of the amazing sectors that the tech industry here has to offer.


And it's quite interesting to think that Israel isn't really known as one of these places because they've developed and produced and grown and exported some of the biggest companies that consumers use even today.

There are all of these companies that Israel produces where everyday consumers use their product or services.



So I speak to Oren all about how Israel is shining in this B2C space and how it never quite got the recognition it deserved, but also why now is the time with a new generation of founders coming from overseas and you know, the native Israeli that was born in the digital era, the AI space, the internet.

What do they want? Do they want to remain online or do they want to start living in real life? We spoke about all of these things and more.
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It feels like, again, because of what's possible with AI on distribution, because of the introduction of a generational platform change that consumers are discovering in a new way online, builders are building in a new way online.

Hi folks, James here, and welcome to the Spiro Circle, this time in collaboration with Forbes Israel.

I've badgered on on this show about Startup Nation, Israeli tech, and some of the amazing sectors that the tech industry here has to offer.


And it's quite interesting to think that Israel isn't really known as one of these places because they've developed and produced and grown and exported some of the biggest companies that consumers use even today.

There are all of these companies that Israel produces where everyday consumers use their product or services.



So I speak to Oren all about how Israel is shining in this B2C space and how it never quite got the recognition it deserved, but also why now is the time with a new generation of founders coming from overseas and you know, the native Israeli that was born in the digital era, the AI space, the internet.

What do they want? Do they want to remain online or do they want to start living in real life? We spoke about all of these things and more.