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Hello, everybody.
You're
I was thinking about something, and maybe there's an easy answer.
Maybe it's one of those speculation things.
We are told, or at least the Numenoreans were told, oh, no, no, no.
If you come over here, you're going to burn up in the light.
And then I thought about Tuor, who admittedly they said, okay, we'll make you an honorary elf.
And then I thought about Erundil, who they made an honorary elf.
He's still there.
And then I think about Arifarazon and his buddies.
Yeah.
Who... got thrown into the basement, but they're still there and they're still alive waiting for, depending on which version you read, whatever happens at the end.
Yeah.
And people have speculated, oh, what happened to Bilbo and Frodo and Sam and Gimli? So, it seems to me that up until the end of the Second Age, every mortal that we know about who went to Valinor, despite what the Elves said- they all got immortalized one way or the other.
The only mortals we know after the end of the Second Age who went to Valinor were three hobbits and a dwarf.
Do we have anything in reasonable canon, and by that I mean not something that scrawled on a napkin somewhere, that gives us concrete information that they withered in the light or whatever we want to say, or can we presume maybe they're still
back,
It's good to be back.
Thank you for letting me in.
Hello, everybody.
You're
I was thinking about something, and maybe there's an easy answer.
Maybe it's one of those speculation things.
We are told, or at least the Numenoreans were told, oh, no, no, no.
If you come over here, you're going to burn up in the light.
And then I thought about Tuor, who admittedly they said, okay, we'll make you an honorary elf.
And then I thought about Erundil, who they made an honorary elf.
He's still there.
And then I think about Arifarazon and his buddies.
Yeah.
Who... got thrown into the basement, but they're still there and they're still alive waiting for, depending on which version you read, whatever happens at the end.
Yeah.
And people have speculated, oh, what happened to Bilbo and Frodo and Sam and Gimli? So, it seems to me that up until the end of the Second Age, every mortal that we know about who went to Valinor, despite what the Elves said- they all got immortalized one way or the other.
The only mortals we know after the end of the Second Age who went to Valinor were three hobbits and a dwarf.
Do we have anything in reasonable canon, and by that I mean not something that scrawled on a napkin somewhere, that gives us concrete information that they withered in the light or whatever we want to say, or can we presume maybe they're still
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