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Sep 11, 2026
Corey OlsenHOST
Good afternoon, everybody.
Corey OlsenHOST
Welcome back to the Silmarillion Film Project.
Corey OlsenHOST
This is season eight, session number 16, as we are coming into what I think is the penultimate pre-production meeting of season eight-ish, somewhere around there.
Corey OlsenHOST
Um, we're in the final phase of pre-production and today we are going to be doing music commissioning, which means I am not only joined as always by our writers room, Ilana and Marie and Nick, but I am also, we are also joined today by special guest, Philip Menzies, our resident composer, uh, to talk about the music that we may want to hear and how we're going to integrate this as we approach the The Turin Turin Bar story.
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Corey OlsenHOST
Because this all involves the question...
Corey OlsenHOST
the big question of what are we going to do with the wanderings of Hurin exactly and how much of that are we going to do? Which then of course leads to the even bigger and more uncertain question of where exactly was Morwen all of this time and what has she been up to since she's been wandering, which the primary text doesn't address at all, right? So yeah, all of that, as we sort of fill in that stuff, at least to some extent, I think there'll be plenty of opportunity there to show.
Corey OlsenHOST
Again, Ilana, as you were reminding us before, in the context of when you read the Silmarillion, it is easy to begin associating the curse with Turin specifically.
Corey OlsenHOST
And, you know, secondarily with with with Neonor as well, because she's, of course, they're both involved and they both die at the same time and everything.
RosieHOST
Like all these people are men who have stood against him and against Morgoth and really caused him some trouble.
RosieHOST
So he names Beren, who was able to steal a Silmaril from Morgoth because Sauron let himself get beaten up by a dog.
RosieHOST
Tua, who was Eärendil's dad, a man who stood against Morgoth's forces at Gondolin.
RosieHOST
And Eärendil.
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JessicaHOST
I do think you're right that he thinks he's exempt from the rules, though.
JessicaHOST
I mean, this is not out of character for him.
JessicaHOST
In the Silmarillion, we see him.
JessicaHOST
He knows that there's a prophecy that Huon will, like, well, I can't remember what the prophecy is exactly.
Ben RobbinsGUEST
Cause it's kind of, I've joked before that my friend Caroline who designed downfall, we're both big Tolkien fans.
Ben RobbinsGUEST
And she kids me that microscope is my Silmaril.
Ben RobbinsGUEST
It's like the work of my heart that cannot be remade and And she's right.
Ben RobbinsGUEST
It's basically it's very intimidating to work on it.
Jared PekacekHOST
Yeah, there's this recurring thing with evil characters and to a lesser extent with good or neutral.
Jared PekacekHOST
Can you call Theanor a good character? Where to do something that is, I want to say unnatural, you have to spend part of yourself to do it, which is why Theanor cannot recreate the Silmarils.
Jared PekacekHOST
He literally put himself into them.
Jared PekacekHOST
We don't know how.
Alan SistoHOST
He's just given Feanor the one argument in all of Arda that Feanor should understand better than any living being.
Alan SistoHOST
Our ships are our Silmarils.
Alan SistoHOST
They are the work of our hearts.
Alan SistoHOST
We cannot make them twice.
Medi Ann VolpeGUEST
No, sir, of course not.
Medi Ann VolpeGUEST
Barren now, he never thought that he was going to get that Silmaril from the Iron Crown in Thangorodrim.
Medi Ann VolpeGUEST
And yet he did, and that was a worse place and a blacker danger than ours.
Medi Ann VolpeGUEST
But that's a long tale, of course, and goes on past the happiness and into grief and beyond it.
Medi Ann VolpeGUEST
And the Silmaril went on and came to Arendil.
Medi Ann VolpeGUEST
And why, sir, I never thought of it before.
Medi Ann VolpeGUEST
We've got, you've got some of the light of it in that star glass that the lady gave you.
GauravHOST
The sun and the moon.
GauravHOST
So, but the Silmarils had the light of the trees and Varda asked for permission if she can take them so that she can recreate the light.
CraigHOST
and he just said no
GauravHOST
and he said no you are like Melkor you will steal it from me so
CraigHOST
if
GauravHOST
you try to take it by force you are basically like a Melkor and right now none of these they don't know that actually Melkor has stolen the Silmaril so in the story he pretty much first sabotages the trees and then goes to take the Silmarils which is in a different city because Fëanor is officially exiled because of acting on the said lies that Melkor poisoned him with and he said and then what I find amusing is the Valar agree to his request they don't force him to take the like you know give up the Silmarils they just said okay and he still goes and when he makes his great oath he says that these guys are just like Melkor like come on man make up your mind
CraigHOST
Yeah.
CraigHOST
But after he takes all the exiled, you know, he does much more unspeakable things like burning the ships so that Fingolfin and his people basically can't follow.
speaker_2HOST
Which is just, you know, unimaginable beauty.
speaker_1HOST
And it is so profound that it inspires Fëanor, the greatest elven craftsman to ever live, to forge the Silmarils.
speaker_2HOST
What's fascinating here is the mechanics of inspiration and magic in this universe.
speaker_1HOST
Oh, break that down for me.
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speaker_1HOST
Because it's a huge loophole.
speaker_2HOST
It is.
speaker_2HOST
And it goes back to the concept of subcreation we discussed with the Silmarils.
speaker_2HOST
Magic in Tolkien's universe is not software that can be hacked remotely.
speaker_0NARRATOR
Before the Rings of Power, there were the Silmarils.
speaker_0NARRATOR
Before Sauron, there was his master Morgoth.
speaker_0NARRATOR
Before Aragorn and Arwen, there was Beren and Luthien.
Thomas SalernoHOST
Silmarillion there are a few references to the last battle it's just never described yeah
Brian ShackettGUEST
there are a few references like I thought isn't it reference correct me if I'm wrong in the Silmarillion how like Fëanor shall remain in the halls of Mendels until the last day right and that's when he shall be released and then you shall find out from what the Silmarils were made or something like that right so
Jeff HaeckerGUEST
yeah there's that there's also a reference when I want to say when valandil goes to amman to seek the aid of the valar i want to say there's uh or there's a yeah valandil it's there's something in there about he's he's he's he's buried there and will stay there until the end of you know until the end of time basically um or oh are you thinking of farazan oh maybe it's farazan okay
Brian ShackettGUEST
yeah there's
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