Oct 23, 2026 · 1 hr 22 min · 10 segments
Mutinda Kilonzo and Matthias Mwangi of Drunken Lectures are taking serious knowledge out of the classroom and into Nairobi's bars. We talk about how it started, what actually works, and why learning…
Yeah, I think one of the biggest things also is how far the pedagogy and academia world is from the ordinary people.
Like, it's so crazy because these experts, we have so many scientists and, you know, these institutes of research and so much research is being done in the country.
But at the moment, you start getting into serious academia, you know, science stuff, research, robotics and all that kind of stuff.
So most of the people who come through when I talk about more humanity stuff, when I talk about mental health or forex or something along those lines, not saying that those are bad things to talk about, but like, it would be better if we could find more people who are into academia to come and talk about these things.
no given point would that ordinary Kenyan know about this science and robotic interesting things that you're working on, unless you come into this space that they exist in and share this thing.
And so we've tried to do initiatives like reaching out to IBEA and all these research institutes and being like, guys, if there's a professor out there who's working on a cool research paper, they could come and deliver it on our stuff.
And so I'd say more academia stuff, guys are very sentimental out here about mental health.
personalized
not very much objective stuff i don't think um when kenyans are getting very objective
i really want to get into that so um when you say guys are not objective right are guys sticking to like particular subjects that are very repetitive i'm looking at that from from like a school perspective right When guys are doing the dissertations, for instance.
Is it the same SME, this, that, what, what, what? Do you tend to get that or what tends to happen?
We don't have a lot of that in the country, mainly because people don't exactly open up about this kind of conversations, or maybe they go and do their dissertations elsewhere, not in the country, and then that becomes a whole hierarchy of, you know, I'm an academia, I don't interact with the culture and the arts of, you know, we've gotten that so many times, actually.
And so most of the academia world and folks tend to hold themselves some certain degree if they hold dissertations of a particular theme, because maybe they are harder to get or something along those lines.
So yeah, so even in that academia world, the behavioral characteristics between people who are pursuing different things is very much evidence how much people are more prone to deliver and interact with, commoners is a crazy word.
layman but yeah so it's the disparity is there I'm not sure why but you can clearly see people who hold themselves to a certain degree because of something they're doing and a particular field in the same caliber but they're also very chill guys they're very chill guys who are doing this stuff you
Yeah, I think one of the biggest things also is how far the pedagogy and academia world is from the ordinary people.
Like, it's so crazy because these experts, we have so many scientists and, you know, these institutes of research and so much research is being done in the country.
But at the moment, you start getting into serious academia, you know, science stuff, research, robotics and all that kind of stuff.
So most of the people who come through when I talk about more humanity stuff, when I talk about mental health or forex or something along those lines, not saying that those are bad things to talk about, but like, it would be better if we could find more people who are into academia to come and talk about these things.
no given point would that ordinary Kenyan know about this science and robotic interesting things that you're working on, unless you come into this space that they exist in and share this thing.
And so we've tried to do initiatives like reaching out to IBEA and all these research institutes and being like, guys, if there's a professor out there who's working on a cool research paper, they could come and deliver it on our stuff.
And so I'd say more academia stuff, guys are very sentimental out here about mental health.
personalized
not very much objective stuff i don't think um when kenyans are getting very objective
i really want to get into that so um when you say guys are not objective right are guys sticking to like particular subjects that are very repetitive i'm looking at that from from like a school perspective right When guys are doing the dissertations, for instance.
Is it the same SME, this, that, what, what, what? Do you tend to get that or what tends to happen?
We don't have a lot of that in the country, mainly because people don't exactly open up about this kind of conversations, or maybe they go and do their dissertations elsewhere, not in the country, and then that becomes a whole hierarchy of, you know, I'm an academia, I don't interact with the culture and the arts of, you know, we've gotten that so many times, actually.
And so most of the academia world and folks tend to hold themselves some certain degree if they hold dissertations of a particular theme, because maybe they are harder to get or something along those lines.
So yeah, so even in that academia world, the behavioral characteristics between people who are pursuing different things is very much evidence how much people are more prone to deliver and interact with, commoners is a crazy word.
layman but yeah so it's the disparity is there I'm not sure why but you can clearly see people who hold themselves to a certain degree because of something they're doing and a particular field in the same caliber but they're also very chill guys they're very chill guys who are doing this stuff you
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