Edwin Sifuna

But when Wandai, C.S. Wandai came in and was telling people, all those who are two-term, who have two-term, And a number, quite a number of people waved two times, a few one times here and there.

And then when Sifuna and Babu came, almost all of them were waving one time.

It's the same group.

Same group of people.

But why was it so hard for the issues within ODM to be resolved so that a section of leaders didn't have to get pushed out? What was so hard in doing what we're doing now, sitting across the table? I

tried, by the way, a lot of people don't know this, but I tried a lot of shuttle diplomacy.

I tried so hard to bring Sifuna back.

I like Sifuna.

I like

Sifuna because you sit down and speak to Sifuna.

He's not bullshitting you, number one.

He's very accountable.

At the end of the day, people will make their own decisions.

People will decide, okay, this is who I want to support because of whatever it is, right? So when it comes to value, Shaxi, what do you think we would give people? What do you expect us to give people so that we can say, okay, this person can bring this one, this one cannot bring this one.

Because, for example, like Sifuna, He is truthful.

He has been consistent with what he says for the longest time.

And I would really hope that, especially those who are running in the opposition, instead of just opposing you know, in a blanket way instead of just opposing this housing.

Because I've had those claims being made and I'm like, no, Sifuna, you're wrong.

You know, because Sifuna has been saying that housing should be in private hands.

No, no, no, no.

Our constitution guarantees housing.

Not in this country.

Have you seen how Sifuna's getting buried for Kofi Onomide and he's over there and there's a bottle of champagne there.

They're just hammering him every day.

They're like...

biggest problem.

100%.

But you see, what I'm trying to say is this, right? And we don't even want to get into Sifuna Vaseso.

But I think we need politics to be mature to the point where we can't start to say, hey, since you were at an event and people happened to be partaking alcohol or you had one, you're not drunk to a stupor.

That was one.

There's Edwin Sifuna's 2027, 2027 presidential bid.

Okay, that was the other.

There's Wicknell Chivayo.

I think it's probably someone you know.

Guys, so out of all these topics Kolo listed, which one do we start with? So there's, um, there's the Dangote Refinery.

There is Sifuna.

There is the Tel Aviv Flydubai-

So there's Wikinel, Chivayo, who you're going to get into.

Sifuna launched his own party.

You're going to get into that.

There's DNA.