110. Caroline Lee on Birth, Death, Psychedelics, and the Kids or Childfree Choice

In this conversation, Keltie is joined by Caroline Lee, a death doula and somatic therapist who supports women and couples with the Kids or Childfree choice. **You'll hear them discuss:** - Caroline's personal journey to motherhood, and the career pivot that took her from photographer, to death doula and therapist. - How fear, grief, shame, and mortality influence decisions around parenthood. - How to work through grief and shame when confronting the Kids or Childfree choice. - The role of psychedelics like psilocybin and ibogaine in exploring the decision of whether to have kids. - The significance of making conscious, intentional decisions about parenthood. ...and so much more. **About Caroline:** Caroline Lee is a death doula, somatic therapist, writer, and mother of 2. She is the creator of To Babe or Not to Babe, a six-week group for people deciding whether to become parents, remain childfree, or have another child. Her work explores death, desire, grief, the body, and the threshold moments where a life starts asking to be lived more truthfully. Her kids are Moses and Octavia, 2.5 years and 5 months old, and she had them at 37 and 39 years old. She and her partner live in the Bay of San Francisco. **As mentioned in the episode:** Find Caroline and her 6-week group program, To Babe or Not to Babe, online at www.tobabeornottobabe.com. Find her on social media at @howcarolinecarolines **MORE HELP FOR YOUR KIDS OR CHILDFREE DECISION:** Start Here: sign up for an upcoming WORKSHOP  🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Join a GROUP PROGRAM 🔗 Kids or Childfree Group Program ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program 🔗Confidently Childfree Group Intensive ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-group-intensive Access an ON DEMAND class  🔗 Peruse the entire On Demand Collection ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/ondemand Join one of our monthly SUPPORT SERIES sessions  🔗 Kids or Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series 🔗Confidently Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series Work with me in 1-on-1 COACHING  🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/coaching FREE resources ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources CONNECT ONLINE 💻 Website ▸ http://kidsorchildfree.com 📸 Instagram ▸ http://instagram.com/kidsorchildfree ⏰ Tiktok ▸ https://tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree 📽️ YouTube ▸ https://www.youtube.com/@KidsorChildfree  👉 Brought to you by Keltie Maguire, Clarity Coach ▸ http://keltiemaguire.com Love what you're hearing? 💕 Subscribe | Like | Comment | Share with a friend