David Bedrick

That's probably really supportive to your followers too, since shame is such a great pillar of keeping people compliant in religion.

But David Bedrick's work is really supportive to me.

And just, I think that orienting to myself is a practice that I do really frequently.

And then just through that practice, I can become more attuned.

It's like, okay, do I need water? Do I need to go to the bathroom? Do I need to exercise? becoming familiar with my own inner landscape.

And then also just, like I said, the unshaming work of just whatever's there, letting it be okay, which David Bedrick has this amazing quote in his book, The Unshaming Way.

It says, I'm going to imagine if every single thing that you experienced in your body was divine and perfect and had some sort of intelligence like anger jealousy vengeance like all these things that we say oh these are bad these are undesirable don't feel these like but what if insecurity like i'm so i feel insecurity all the time i feel jealous all the time i feel anger all the time and Like, the thought of, okay, well, that's okay.

Like, there's an intelligence there.

But I really think of it more as like service centered collaborations, where you are asking yourself, "Where can I give? Where can I be the most useful? Where can I lend what I have to support someone else?" So most recently, if you've been following me for the past, hmm, I don't know, half a year, you can see that I have done two major pieces of collaborations.

I have done one in the fall of last year with David Bedrick, the course on shame, and I have been doing my current collaboration with Melissa Tieres on the Best Fucking Coaching Course.

And with both of them, when the idea of the collaboration was floated for the first time, it wasn't like, "Ooh, I bet it would benefit me if I work with them to do this." It was always like, "Oh my gosh," for both of them, right? I was like, "David's work is so fucking amazing.

Like, the world needs to know about it.

Yeah, I think absolutely.

That's, um, Brene Brown and then David Bedrick, who takes that a step further, who I did a training with last year.

It was a year-long training of how do you, um, facilitate that kind of process of working through shame with somebody else, right?

Mm-hmm.

So there's so many of those things that are part of the culture.

My guest today is David Bedrick, the author of The Unshaming Way.

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Here's my conversation with David Bedrick.

How would you define shame?

And we're usually left alone in it.

So that's what I wanted to jump in really quick and give David Bedrick's definition.

And it's exactly that.

He just says it in a different way.

I need you to write that down for me.

I need to, that is so good.

And that is, that directly correlates with, I know I like, I'm such a David Bedrick fan girl.

I talk about him all the time, but like that directly correlates with his shame research and work, which I think is so, shame is an external force.