Jul 7, 2026 · 1 hr 47 min · 11 segments
What is the purpose of baptism and the Lord's Supper? Should we refer to them as ordinances or sacraments? How much attention should we pay to the mode of baptism? Can communion be taken with grape…
Kyle ClaunchPanelist
Tom SculthorpeHost
Matt D'AmicoPanelist
So, there's a common term now that Hans Borsma has made popular, it's getting a lot of attention, called sacramental ontology.
And that's the idea that all of life, all of being in creation is sacramentally related to God.
So that in a manner analogous to how the sacraments, thinking in terms of the Lord's Supper and baptism, in terms of ecclesiology, in the way that those sacraments have a certain bearing on our relation to God.
Sacramental theology could refer to something just simply, you know, your theology of the sacraments.
And so, that has to do with, you get into a lot of... of philosophy and this that can be very good you know doing philosophy is a good thing is what i'm saying but you get into a lot of philosophical discussion about the nature of just the creator creature relation what it means for god to be infinite and transcendent and yet for creatures to have a real relation to him that obviously differs from the way that he relates to us which you know we would say He's not in any way affected by us.
The nature of that relation comes into play, what it means to participate in the divine life and how that participation is worked out in our lives, not only through the special means of the gospel and the sacraments, but even just through our daily ordered lives.
Is there anything in the word sacrament, say, throughout church history, that entails what we would critique about the Roman mass? That is, it's sacrificial in some sense.
I don't think there's anything in the word sacrament itself that entails a sacrifice.
So, there's a common term now that Hans Borsma has made popular, it's getting a lot of attention, called sacramental ontology.
And that's the idea that all of life, all of being in creation is sacramentally related to God.
So that in a manner analogous to how the sacraments, thinking in terms of the Lord's Supper and baptism, in terms of ecclesiology, in the way that those sacraments have a certain bearing on our relation to God.
Sacramental theology could refer to something just simply, you know, your theology of the sacraments.
And so, that has to do with, you get into a lot of... of philosophy and this that can be very good you know doing philosophy is a good thing is what i'm saying but you get into a lot of philosophical discussion about the nature of just the creator creature relation what it means for god to be infinite and transcendent and yet for creatures to have a real relation to him that obviously differs from the way that he relates to us which you know we would say He's not in any way affected by us.
The nature of that relation comes into play, what it means to participate in the divine life and how that participation is worked out in our lives, not only through the special means of the gospel and the sacraments, but even just through our daily ordered lives.
Is there anything in the word sacrament, say, throughout church history, that entails what we would critique about the Roman mass? That is, it's sacrificial in some sense.
I don't think there's anything in the word sacrament itself that entails a sacrifice.
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