LGBTQ+ Rights: Hungary Advances, The World Retreats | The Karel Cast

But we do have a piece of good news, so we can start with the good news.

And there's been a lot of good news out of Hungary when it comes to LGBTQ people because the new very handsome person who replaced Viktor Orban Is not Victor Warbon.

In other words, he ran on a policy that he heard the people speak.

One of the things the people said was, we want you to repeal these anti-gay laws.

And now that he's in office, he is actually starting to do that.

The Hungarian National Assembly voted yesterday to repeal the anti-LGBTQI provisions that were introduced in 2021, the propaganda law.

We have spoken a lot about these propaganda laws on the show and what they are is just another way to attack gay people or their allies.

and call any kind of dissemination of anything about gay people whether it's here's a clinic or here's some AIDS information or whatever to just label it all propaganda because when you do that it vilifies the people it prevents communication all this other stuff but the new amendment allows LGBTQ people and their stories to reappear in media and thus the public eye and comprehensive LGBTQI inclusive sex education can finally return to schools in Hungary While the legislative amendments remove legal barriers, the chilling effect of the 2021 law had had on society will not disappear overnight.

And I think that's the bigger issue.

In other words, you know, in 2021, they passed these very restrictive propaganda laws.

They took teaching about being LGBTQ out of schools.

They stopped safer sex education.

They did all of that.

And that, of course, swung the mood of the people to be kind of anti-gay.

And, you know, as it would the bully pulpit.

And now they've repealed it, but it's going to take a minute for public opinion and for institutions to catch up.

Would you agree?

Yeah, I think that's generally true.

I think I made this point maybe in the last session or the chess session before that.

If you want to heal a wound, you first have to remove the thorn, and the stitches take time to heal themselves.

Basically, if you want to cure someone, take the poison out and let their body recover.

It takes time.

you know out of Hungary they still have a ban on legal gender recognition that needs to be lifted and the Hungarian fundamental law still contains passages that stigmatize trans people and rainbow families additional provisions aimed at implementing the propaganda law particularly the government decree mandating the wrapping of books containing gay content in plastic like they could spray book condoms and restricting their distribution need to be repealed

I didn't know everyone in Hungary was running these bookshops like a 1990s North American grandmother.

No, it wasn't the 90s, honey.

But we do have a piece of good news, so we can start with the good news.

And there's been a lot of good news out of Hungary when it comes to LGBTQ people because the new very handsome person who replaced Viktor Orban Is not Victor Warbon.

In other words, he ran on a policy that he heard the people speak.

One of the things the people said was, we want you to repeal these anti-gay laws.

And now that he's in office, he is actually starting to do that.

The Hungarian National Assembly voted yesterday to repeal the anti-LGBTQI provisions that were introduced in 2021, the propaganda law.

We have spoken a lot about these propaganda laws on the show and what they are is just another way to attack gay people or their allies.

and call any kind of dissemination of anything about gay people whether it's here's a clinic or here's some AIDS information or whatever to just label it all propaganda because when you do that it vilifies the people it prevents communication all this other stuff but the new amendment allows LGBTQ people and their stories to reappear in media and thus the public eye and comprehensive LGBTQI inclusive sex education can finally return to schools in Hungary While the legislative amendments remove legal barriers, the chilling effect of the 2021 law had had on society will not disappear overnight.

And I think that's the bigger issue.

In other words, you know, in 2021, they passed these very restrictive propaganda laws.

They took teaching about being LGBTQ out of schools.

They stopped safer sex education.

They did all of that.

And that, of course, swung the mood of the people to be kind of anti-gay.

And, you know, as it would the bully pulpit.

And now they've repealed it, but it's going to take a minute for public opinion and for institutions to catch up.

Would you agree?

Yeah, I think that's generally true.

I think I made this point maybe in the last session or the chess session before that.

If you want to heal a wound, you first have to remove the thorn, and the stitches take time to heal themselves.

Basically, if you want to cure someone, take the poison out and let their body recover.

It takes time.

you know out of Hungary they still have a ban on legal gender recognition that needs to be lifted and the Hungarian fundamental law still contains passages that stigmatize trans people and rainbow families additional provisions aimed at implementing the propaganda law particularly the government decree mandating the wrapping of books containing gay content in plastic like they could spray book condoms and restricting their distribution need to be repealed

I didn't know everyone in Hungary was running these bookshops like a 1990s North American grandmother.

No, it wasn't the 90s, honey.