Aug 11, 2026 · 56 min · 11 segments
Tara Minton talks with Franklin Kiermyer about his upcoming release, 'Scatter The Atoms That Remain' and his life in music and spirituality. Support the show
Franklin KiermyerGuest
Tara MintonHost
And, I mean, I'm sure you've had the same experience of trying to explain what you do to people who haven't chosen an artistic life.
My wife, when we first started getting together, she found it hard to understand why I would struggle so much with something that was so difficult.
And care so much about it when it seemed like not enough of the world around me cared about it.
And this is not because of anything, whether it's ignorance or great wisdom.
She's a creative person herself, but kind of from the outside, this level of devotion to something that doesn't always pay the bill so well seems foolish.
And so, of course, like you say, it's the kind of thing we all think about at different times, but it's hard to put in words.
But I was kind of forced over... over the first, I don't know, couple of years or something, to figure out how to explain, you know.
And it helped me a lot because I really had to try to understand in an intellectual way why I was doing this.
And, of course, it's using the intelligence to describe these feelings or this impetus, you know.
And after some time, I realized, well, there's a pyramid to why I'm doing this.
But clearly, the apex of it is I'm doing it because of what it does to me.
What it does to me, how it feels, but even deeper than how it feels, what it does.
And the way it changes me is obviously a good thing, even though a lot of the experiences I'd have to identify as painful.
And I think it's like that I would like to think it's like that for all artists.
And, I mean, I'm sure you've had the same experience of trying to explain what you do to people who haven't chosen an artistic life.
My wife, when we first started getting together, she found it hard to understand why I would struggle so much with something that was so difficult.
And care so much about it when it seemed like not enough of the world around me cared about it.
And this is not because of anything, whether it's ignorance or great wisdom.
She's a creative person herself, but kind of from the outside, this level of devotion to something that doesn't always pay the bill so well seems foolish.
And so, of course, like you say, it's the kind of thing we all think about at different times, but it's hard to put in words.
But I was kind of forced over... over the first, I don't know, couple of years or something, to figure out how to explain, you know.
And it helped me a lot because I really had to try to understand in an intellectual way why I was doing this.
And, of course, it's using the intelligence to describe these feelings or this impetus, you know.
And after some time, I realized, well, there's a pyramid to why I'm doing this.
But clearly, the apex of it is I'm doing it because of what it does to me.
What it does to me, how it feels, but even deeper than how it feels, what it does.
And the way it changes me is obviously a good thing, even though a lot of the experiences I'd have to identify as painful.
And I think it's like that I would like to think it's like that for all artists.
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