I'm interested in what you have to say about this.

That's an interesting question.

Because as you're asking that question, I'm thinking of desire, ego, desire.

You know, these wanting, grasping, self-identification, you know.

And all these things, you know, I think especially – Especially in our cultures, in the so-called West.

We think all these things are really bad.

A lot of people, when they start to meditate, they think they're supposed to...

What brought you back?