Aug 21, 2026 · 1 hr 14 min · 14 segments
What if the difference between a business that stalls and one that scales past $100M isn't talent or budget, but whether you build your team the way elite sports teams build theirs? In this episode…
Kevin Mark-WattsGuest
Paul AvinsHost
But eventually I thought, well, I wasn't working for a major retailer anyway.

And I don't think area management is where I want to be with this in this setup.

And actually, if you look at fast-moving consumer goods, it's much more diverse in terms of product, available product diversification.

So I took a step back, running some fairly small convenience stores or newsagents, they were called then, And I did that for two years to get my next role, which would be the area manager role.

And the company I went to work for got 700 stores, 7,000 employees, one of the largest convenience store chains in the UK of its time.

Yeah, they've just sold out to Morrison's now, but they were running up until probably two years ago still.

And, yeah, I just thought, you know, from a strategic point of view, they're going to give me that multi-site, in area manager terms, they're going to give me that multi-site skill that I need.

Because you could see straight away, as you do in the McDonald's and the subway setups, that wherever you go in the country, if you walk into a McDonald's or a subway, it's all exactly the same.

Why do you think entrepreneurs find that quite challenging to pull off then, to go more than one site? Because I think quite often people go, the answer to the problem of not growing enough is do another site.

Whereas actually it might just be do what you're doing, but do it better in the site that you've got.

I think quite often people multiply too early and go too many multiple locations too quickly.

But eventually I thought, well, I wasn't working for a major retailer anyway.

And I don't think area management is where I want to be with this in this setup.

And actually, if you look at fast-moving consumer goods, it's much more diverse in terms of product, available product diversification.

So I took a step back, running some fairly small convenience stores or newsagents, they were called then, And I did that for two years to get my next role, which would be the area manager role.

And the company I went to work for got 700 stores, 7,000 employees, one of the largest convenience store chains in the UK of its time.

Yeah, they've just sold out to Morrison's now, but they were running up until probably two years ago still.

And, yeah, I just thought, you know, from a strategic point of view, they're going to give me that multi-site, in area manager terms, they're going to give me that multi-site skill that I need.

Because you could see straight away, as you do in the McDonald's and the subway setups, that wherever you go in the country, if you walk into a McDonald's or a subway, it's all exactly the same.

Why do you think entrepreneurs find that quite challenging to pull off then, to go more than one site? Because I think quite often people go, the answer to the problem of not growing enough is do another site.

Whereas actually it might just be do what you're doing, but do it better in the site that you've got.

I think quite often people multiply too early and go too many multiple locations too quickly.
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