Sep 15, 2026 · 1 hr 9 min · 14 segments
A former Anthropic safety researcher put the odds of AI wiping out humanity in the next ten years at 10%. Days later Anthropic announced a model too good at hacking to release, half the industry…
Adam ConnerGuestRichHostTimHostZachHostLukeHostIt's over.
It's joever.
Call it.
I, yeah.
No, I, um, ho- honestly, the most interesting theory I've heard, I think we heard earlier this morning, um- That the AI companies are terrified that they're not gonna be able to prove on paper that, that they are solvent basically, that they're producing-
Mm.
Right
... you know, that they're ever gonna bring in enough revenue to make, uh, to make up for the amount of money they've consumed.
And so if they can convince government to step in and regulate, then they can n- now have somebody else to blame and say, "Well, we were, you know, we were on this other trajectory-
Mm
...
but out of a, out of, out of the goodness in our hearts, we chose to ask the government to, you know, step in and regulate.
And so now, like, it's gonna be 750 years before we turn a profit, but that's because we, you know, we sacrificed ourselves." [laughs] And, and they can kind of be the savior-
You can't even get it out of your mouth without laughing
...
but also offload the-
I don't know.
I-
[laughs] Offload the responsibility
...
I, I thought about this a lot recently, 'cause I always was wondering, how the fuck are they making any money? But then I, I started realizing, like, they're just at the infancy of their ability to make money.
Like, w- like, they don't give a shit about people.
They wanna be, like, a business-to-business company.
Every single business is gonna have AI running it.
Yeah, that, that's where the money is.
It's over.
It's joever.
Call it.
I, yeah.
No, I, um, ho- honestly, the most interesting theory I've heard, I think we heard earlier this morning, um- That the AI companies are terrified that they're not gonna be able to prove on paper that, that they are solvent basically, that they're producing-
Mm.
Right
... you know, that they're ever gonna bring in enough revenue to make, uh, to make up for the amount of money they've consumed.
And so if they can convince government to step in and regulate, then they can n- now have somebody else to blame and say, "Well, we were, you know, we were on this other trajectory-
Mm
...
but out of a, out of, out of the goodness in our hearts, we chose to ask the government to, you know, step in and regulate.
And so now, like, it's gonna be 750 years before we turn a profit, but that's because we, you know, we sacrificed ourselves." [laughs] And, and they can kind of be the savior-
You can't even get it out of your mouth without laughing
...
but also offload the-
I don't know.
I-
[laughs] Offload the responsibility
...
I, I thought about this a lot recently, 'cause I always was wondering, how the fuck are they making any money? But then I, I started realizing, like, they're just at the infancy of their ability to make money.
Like, w- like, they don't give a shit about people.
They wanna be, like, a business-to-business company.
Every single business is gonna have AI running it.
Yeah, that, that's where the money is.
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