The Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast
Jul 7, 2026 · 32 min · 10 segments
**Free Resource: Craft a Rule of Life for Emotionally Healthy Leaders → emotionallyhealthy.org/rule** In 2004, I stood in front of a building we couldn't afford to renovate, a staff team with the…
Pete ScazzeroHost
It needed a lot of renovations, and I was tired from the whole process of actually buying it.

More significantly, a number of areas were out of order in our church leadership, and and our staff team, wrong people in wrong positions.

There were some challenges within our team, and I wasn't having difficult conversations that I needed to be having.

We talked to everyone, laid out all the problems to me privately, and basically, it was a very long list, and almost all of them went back to me and my leadership, our lack of executive leadership with our team.

And a number of difficult decisions needed to be made and conversations needed to be had.

And so you all know the feeling of being squeezed, of being overloaded, having not enough hours in the day, not enough margin, emotionally depleted, spiritually depleted under, again, relentless pressure.

And the temptation for all of us is we get anxious, we get reactive, we get driven.

How do you find rest when the pressure is relentless and actually the pressure feels incredibly high? That's the question.

Now, the short answer comes, I'm going to give you today, comes from Isaiah 36 and 37, a tremendous story.

It needed a lot of renovations, and I was tired from the whole process of actually buying it.

More significantly, a number of areas were out of order in our church leadership, and and our staff team, wrong people in wrong positions.

There were some challenges within our team, and I wasn't having difficult conversations that I needed to be having.

We talked to everyone, laid out all the problems to me privately, and basically, it was a very long list, and almost all of them went back to me and my leadership, our lack of executive leadership with our team.

And a number of difficult decisions needed to be made and conversations needed to be had.

And so you all know the feeling of being squeezed, of being overloaded, having not enough hours in the day, not enough margin, emotionally depleted, spiritually depleted under, again, relentless pressure.

And the temptation for all of us is we get anxious, we get reactive, we get driven.

How do you find rest when the pressure is relentless and actually the pressure feels incredibly high? That's the question.

Now, the short answer comes, I'm going to give you today, comes from Isaiah 36 and 37, a tremendous story.
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