Michael ArringtonGuest
Tommy ShaughnessyHostEvery podcast I listen to about you, you always reference this concept called the fourth turning.
It's this concept that every hundred years the world changes, and we're in...
... institutions are valued, it kind of breaks down, there's this crazy reset.

There's two books that made a, such a huge impression on me that I'll never forget them.

One is, uh, Guns, Germs, and Steel, which was, I think was published in the early '90s.

And, you know, if we were all the same color, we'd find something to hate about each other, our ears, whatever.

The Fourth Turning, uh, is another one that's a little bit sad, but seems to be very accurate.

I think one of the authors passed away, but just recently the other author did an update to it.
Every podcast I listen to about you, you always reference this concept called the fourth turning.
It's this concept that every hundred years the world changes, and we're in...
... institutions are valued, it kind of breaks down, there's this crazy reset.

There's two books that made a, such a huge impression on me that I'll never forget them.

One is, uh, Guns, Germs, and Steel, which was, I think was published in the early '90s.

And, you know, if we were all the same color, we'd find something to hate about each other, our ears, whatever.

The Fourth Turning, uh, is another one that's a little bit sad, but seems to be very accurate.

I think one of the authors passed away, but just recently the other author did an update to it.
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